By caving to Bush on the war funding, Congress lost my approval. I mean, what was the point of DNC sweep if they don't use it? They never had GOP approval, so now all that's left is that center 25%.
Me, too. I'm a lifelong Dem and had high hopes, but their total collapse as an opposition party has disenchanted me (to the eXtReMe!). I wish we could just pull the plug, get all the current officeholders out of DC and start over.
And I'm totally not buying the "we're just innocent bystanders" and "the Republicans keep thwarting us" lines that they've been pushing. If that's the case, then how come the Republicans were able to relentlessly rape this country with right-wing legislation when they were in power?
They can all suck it.
They should just do a budget with enough funding for 90 days and to ship everyone home.
And refuse any more.
If he vetoes it, just send him the same one, but kill even more funding for new weapons systems.
When dealing with delusional dictators, you need to be firm.
Except that there are far too many people out there who would view those sorts of political maneuvers with exactly the same sort of disdain some of you are currently expressing towards the Dems, who - and I'm sure most of us are well aware of this fact - do not currently have a veto-proof majority in Congress.
Until there's a new administration in the White House, or until enough members on the GOP side desert the sinking ship named "George W. Bush", there's not a lot Congress can do that will be both politically, as well as practically effective.
Check this out:
"In the video... a faux special Fox News report features Bush, Blair, Condi---all your favorites singing along (Late Night with Conan O'Brien-style) to "Waterloo", which is filled with very prescient lines about "history repeating itself", "I feel like I win when I lose" (which really brilliantly sums up Dick Cheney) and "couldn't escape if I wanted to," which sums up how a lot us feel about the next year or so with Bush at the helm. Click on the video for more."
This is the funniest thing I've seen in forev and should be Slogged.
@4 - no, they can still just send bills for only 90 days of funding and shipping em back home.
Bush can't originate spending bills, nor can the Senate.
It's in that piece of paper he hates, the US Constitution.
True @6, but he CAN continue to veto them, and without the ability to override that veto, it just becomes the political equivalent of a pitcher throwing endless curve-balls that the batter keeps fouling-off; in short, a stale-mate.
But, that's what the situation is right now, so what possible point would there be in dragging it out? It certainly doesn't do the Dems any good, and shrub already has the lowest approval rating of any President since they started tracking approval ratings, so clearly he doesn't give a flying fig (even one stuffed with cheese and wrapped in bacon) about public opinion. He's going to just keep on keepin' on, and nothing short of an election or an impeachment is going to change that.
I, also, don't get why a veto-proof majority is required for ending this bullshit fuckup of a war. I, also, disapprove of this congress, down to the last member, including my congressman, Bagdhad Jim McDermott. where's the outrage? where's the strategy? where's the grandstanding?
If shithead vetos the funding bill you offer, DON'T FUND IT. don't send another bill to him. there's no requirement that it must be funded. simply not-funding the war ENDS IT. just like vietnam.
@7 - which means the funding runs out - WHICH means that the troops AUTOMATICALLY have to come home.
In poker you learn what it takes to win.
Can't lose with that hand.
@ 8 & 9:
OR it means the troops get stranded in the middle of bum-fuck Iraqistan, while this Administration parlays the lives of American soldiers for the expediency of scoring some political points at the expense of their critics.
Can you IMAGINE shrub getting up in front of all those cameras and stating, with bald-faced assurance, "this wasn't OUR fault. It was that librul Congress that cut off the funding to protect your brave sons and daughters". I certainly can.
And I'll bet every Democratic member of Congress can as well.
This administration knows no shame, and would stoop to ANY LEVEL to point the finger of blame at anyone other than themselves.
And you know what the MOST SAD part is?
There are a lot of people out there who will BELIEVE that to be the truth.
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