Slog - Comments on CBS & Fox Want You Knocked Up http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up CBS and Fox are refusing to air an advertisement for Trojan condoms. The--sigh--"controversial" ad shows a bunch of pigs in a bar trying to pick up women without success. The ad wasn't rejected for being unrealistic (pigs successfully pick women up in bars all the time), but because after one of the pigs goes to the bathroom and purchases a condom he's is magically transformed into a hot dude. That's not the issue either--CBS and Fox put plenty of hot dudes on television. When the hot dude returns to the bar a woman that rejected his pig incarnation smiles at... Copyright 2008 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:04:08 -0800 Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:43:31 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Gloria I was so sure it was the use of "evolve."

]]> Gloria http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745913 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745913 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:12:40 -0800 Comment by Josh Feit "Evolve" ! Nicely played Trojan.

]]> Josh Feit http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745914 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745914 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:13:59 -0800 Comment by Tiffany Hey did you notice the new abstinence campaign being advertised by the State of Washington? Looks like a waste of money to me:

http://www.nosexnoproblems.com/

]]> Tiffany http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745919 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745919 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:21:18 -0800 Comment by Dougsf My god. Why are the networks still afraid of these religious conservative groups? Their boycotts are never effective, and they've proven themselves to be toothless, little barking dogs. Isn't there a form letter networks can send to these freaks ("we here at CBS are decdicated to quality, family programming...understand concerns...respect values...but ultamately feel..."etc.) and just get on with business as usual?

]]> Dougsf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745922 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745922 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:26:33 -0800 Comment by monkey Which would offend the pope more, being fucked bareback or with a condom?

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745948 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745948 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:50:24 -0800 Comment by and wait and cbs owns mtv and logo. mtv especially is always trying to be super pro-condom. i guess when the tweens turn into geezers its no longer ok.

]]> and http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745967 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745967 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:02:11 -0800 Comment by ecce homo Now what will the kids watching fox and cbs do when they are having sex!!! My God!!

Who cares about a commercial. They need to make boxes of rubbers look like baseball cards, then kids won't be embarrased buying them.

]]> ecce homo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745974 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745974 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:06:21 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Nothing says moral Christianity like pregnant underage teens in rural communities.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745981 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745981 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:10:32 -0800 Comment by Rev. George Another "offense possibility" is that the use of swine offends Muslims. We don't know what the offense was, only what Trojan speculated it was.

Either way, it was stupid of the network.

]]> Rev. George http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745985 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745985 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:13:52 -0800 Comment by ecce homo Will,

You live in a rural community and know lots of pregnant underage teens? Here I thought you were just another seattle transplant hipping to be square.

Now git to dem chores...

]]> ecce homo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745986 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745986 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:14:03 -0800 Comment by Gitai Hey, now, this is just more of your big city bias against rural small towns. If it weren't for unprotected sex leading to unplanned pregnancies among bored, small town kids, thus destroying them economically, they'd all graduate from high school, go on to college, and leave their small towns forever. Small town America would be depopulated in a generation, as educated young men and women delayed starting families until they were ready for them.

For further refrence, listen to "The River," by Bruce Springsteen.

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745997 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c745997 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:20:59 -0800 Comment by Gitai @10 I grew up in a small, rural community and knew lots of pregnant teens. When my family moved there in 1975, any girl that got pregnant was expelled from school. My father sued the school district, and they responded by setting up an alternative high school that had day care and stuff. It's never low on enrollment.

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746002 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746002 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:24:11 -0800 Comment by pox How is one supposed to evolve if one prevents procreation?

]]> pox http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746003 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:25:18 -0800 Comment by printer I guess safe sex is only agreeable so long as there's always the chance of messing up your life and a kid's for 18+ years.

]]> printer http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746018 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746018 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:33:32 -0800 Comment by elswinger Viagra, Cialis, Enzyte, these products they don't have a problem with?

I think it was the word "evolve" that got the ads banned.

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746067 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746067 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:53:40 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Do keep in mind that the only people who watch CBS are in their nineties, so contraception isn't really an issue anymore. And the only people who watch FOX are retarded, so using a condom requires physical and mental skills that are beyond them.

As for teenage mommas in the sticks: every time I go to Shelton, which I do as often as possible, I try to fit in a visit to the Wal-Mart, just so I can ogle the nineteen-year-old girls with a bun in the oven and three loaves already baked in the cart. Mullet-haired daddies may or may not be present; they either left when the babies appeared, or can't get the homemade half-Chevy truck, half-Toyota-sedan with enormous tires running. These people really do exist.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746120 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746120 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:25:01 -0800 Comment by longball Damn you FNARF, i am recovering from an operation and laughing really HURTS!. I think your post may have just popped all my stitches.

"three loaves in the cart"!

bless you Fnarf, OUTCH!

]]> longball http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746137 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746137 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:36:51 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @10 - I grew up in one.

Never said I lived in one now.

Clue stick ...

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746154 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746154 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:52:03 -0800 Comment by Dougsf I think we're all totally missing the obvious subtextual joke, which of course is "pork".

]]> Dougsf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746160 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:56:00 -0800 Comment by ricky “Contraceptive advertising must stress health-related uses rather than the prevention of pregnancy.”

Isn't a contraceptive by definition a device or drug that prevents pregnancy?

This makes no sense to me.

]]> ricky http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746161 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:57:09 -0800 Comment by bitch on heels Who ever said there wasn't a teenage pregnancy problem in the city?

Doesn't a girl's entry into her 20s sans kids have more to do with educational opportunity, economic advantage, religious upbringing, social mores, and self-esteem than it does rural/urban divides?

]]> bitch on heels http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746179 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746179 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:17:28 -0800 Comment by Ebenezer Dan --

I think you're misinterpreting the refusals by CBS and Fox. What they are doing is well-thought out and logical, and contained in their corporate policies:

1) having sex with condoms is less enjoyable than without and
2) if you need birth control, better to use a product from a big pharma. And
3) there's liability if the product fails.

"Not rubber! Rubber break!" - Chico Escuela

]]> Ebenezer http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746186 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746186 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:30:11 -0800 Comment by =rightsforsome isn't showing guys who want to get laid as pigs a bit sexist?
well mujeres, what do you think?

]]> =rightsforsome http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746187 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746187 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:33:51 -0800 Comment by Kerlyssa "Snopes Flying Pig Trial" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

]]> Kerlyssa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746190 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746190 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:35:43 -0800 Comment by Kerlyssa rightsforsome: I think it's clever. Some guy is hitting on you, doesn't want to use a condom- yeah, right. When pigs fly, douche.

]]> Kerlyssa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746193 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746193 Media Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:39:44 -0800 Comment by jessemoya I don't think Right-Wingers should have a problem with the way they're using the word evolve - they're using it incorrectly and in exactly the way Creationists want the public to understand the concept.

POPULATIONS evolve, not INDIVIDUALS. That, along with misleading phrases like "survival of the fittest" help spread confusion about concepts like evolution.

So, remember: populations evolve over time, but when an individual changes it's never EVOLUTION.

]]> jessemoya http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746366 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746366 Media Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:20:36 -0800 Comment by JessB @8 LOL Ah yes, I grew up in one of these. When I was a sophomore in high-school one of my teachers told me that our town had the highest teen-pregnancy rate per-capita in the nation. I don't know if that was true or not, however I do know that including my best friend there were at least 10 girls in my class with visible baby bumps. My best friend actually suggested I should get pregnant so we could be pregnant at the same time. I moved to live with my mother in a different town the summer after that year.

]]> JessB http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746380 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746380 Media Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:29:11 -0800 Comment by marc in detroit Good slog posts today, Dan. You really need a more publicly accessible blog. The Slog is great and all, but you could probably reach a lot more people if you had your own big shot blog. You have a lot more useful insight than just sex advice. Just a though.

]]> marc in detroit http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746395 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c746395 Media Tue, 19 Jun 2007 08:05:27 -0800 Comment by DeeW Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays!!

]]> DeeW http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c748417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c748417 Media Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:26:38 -0800 Comment by grolzfy iwlage gtlxpvhw dlpz goqnwchrv xcfntdzu exfohuv ivrg pshtv

]]> grolzfy iwlage http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c751029 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/06/cbs_fox_want_you_knocked_up#c751029 Media Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:43:31 -0800