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GAWD. I henceforth swear to stop reading anything by annie wagner.

Posted by Charles | May 29, 2007 6:45 PM
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Yes, everyone knows that Turkish Germans aren't *really* German. Especially the Turks who are third generation German citizens and grew up speaking German and can't speak a word of Turkish and have never been to Turkey. They're the least German of all, huh.

And, while we're at it, let's make sure that Dani Levy isn't in the German category, either, since he's Jewish.

Oh, and Lars von Trier? Well, he has a German name, so let's move him from Danish directors to German directors. The Germans can have him. We wouldn't want to sully Danish cinema with him.

Posted by teledain wa chang | May 29, 2007 8:45 PM
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Dear TWC:

Please see this story in the New York Time Magazine this weekend: Where Every Generation if First-Generation. Third generation German Turks that can't speak a word of German? Not as common as you seem to think:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/magazine/27immigrant-t.html


"This leaves open only one avenue for non-European men and women who want to enter Germany legally: marriage to someone with legal residency in the country. Fortunately for would-be immigrants, young ethnic Turks in Germany have a strong tendency to marry people from the home country. Exact statistics are hard to come by, but it is possible that as many as 50 percent of Turks (a word that in common parlance often includes even those with German citizenship) seek their spouses abroad, according to Schäuble, the interior minister. For most of the past decade, according to the ministry, between 21,000 and 27,000 people a year have successfully applied at German consulates in Turkey to form families in Germany. (Just under two-thirds of the newcomers are women.) That means roughly half a million spouses since the mid-1980s, which in turn means hundreds of thousands of new families in which the children’s first language is as likely to be Turkish as German."

Posted by Dan Savage | May 29, 2007 8:59 PM
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Germany FTW bitches!! WOOT!

Posted by Monique | May 29, 2007 10:57 PM
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[quoting Annie]
Meanwhile, Volker Schlondorff sneaks by with another heinous clunker about the Polish Solidarity movement, in which a German actress is dubbed into Polish to play the “mother of Poland.” Geez. Can’t Germany leave Poland well enough alone? [unquote]

By that sort of reasoning, no one but a Japanese soprano would or should sing Cio-Cio-San in "Madama Butterfly". Sir Anthony Hopkins would rail against such assailable thinking. Who, not coincidentally, was brilliant tonight at a SIFF Q & A following his mad movie, "Slipstream". Neither movie nor him should be missed, and Tuesday (today) is your chance.

Hopkins insists that we "wake up", try to recall (and benefit) from recent history (30 years would be a good number he suggests), and live your lives by taking risks without fear of failure. Stay at the Paris Hilton if you must, but don't read about Paris Hilton. At 69, Sir Anthony's earned the right to be curmudgeonly, and he's such a pleasant, charming one.

Posted by SIFF-ILITIC VOYEUR | May 29, 2007 11:52 PM
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lifew aint all about sad shit anfd all like my girlfriend left me boo hoo hooo or she might?

Posted by summertime | May 30, 2007 1:26 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-oCd23W7r8

Posted by summertime | May 30, 2007 1:54 AM
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+i miss germany even better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKc4-NU9oP8&mode=related&search=

pushin too hard

Posted by summertime | May 30, 2007 2:46 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8tCSlW2Jzc&mode=related&search=

Posted by summertime | May 30, 2007 2:58 AM
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Posted by summertime | May 30, 2007 3:03 AM
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@2: I never said that. I pointed out that SIFF has only one example of a film by a Turkish-German filmmaker in SIFF's German spotlight, so those films obviously weren't what came to mind when the programmers thought about German cinema. Anyway, Bülent Akinci was born in Ankara, so he's technically first-generation.

@5: Duh, movies are not opera. No one expects realism from an opera. What this is really like is Chinese actresses playing geisha in Memoirs of a Geisha, or--no, because that was all filmed in English--it would be like, I don't know, a Frenchwoman playing Elizabeth I, dubbed, because they couldn't find any qualified actresses who were fluent in English. Either you have a problem with it or you don't, but I found it pretty cheesy.

Posted by annie | May 30, 2007 9:55 AM
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@11 - Finding a problem with it: would that include Ingrid Bergman playing Joan of Arc with a Swedish accent, Bette Davis playing Elizabeth I with a what-a-dump accent or Greer Garson (beautiful) playing Eleanor Roosevelt (ugly). And then there's deaf, blind and dumb Patty Duke. Oh well, I guess it really is the Germans - but hasn't that always been the case? Looking forward to more of your SIFF reviews in any event. And while many say, "it's just a movie," few say, "it's just an opera."

Posted by SIFF-ILITIC VOYEUR | May 30, 2007 1:40 PM
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