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or it could just be that gay guys value living on capitol hill more than single women and lesbians.

Posted by Paul | May 16, 2007 3:35 PM
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Or, it could be that economic equality between men and women is still a joke.

Posted by louley | May 16, 2007 3:41 PM
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Yeah, I suspect this is totally a demographics/geography thing. In most big coastal cities the downtown area has a higher % of single men due to the gay male contingency. The single-woman ratio is higher in places like Madison, WI and Olympia, WA too.

Posted by Jason | May 16, 2007 3:41 PM
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Kinda makes you wish Jamie Pedersen had been better on that condo bill.

Posted by Josh Feit | May 16, 2007 3:42 PM
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Aren't unmarried people considered single, or does "couples" imply marriage? What I'm barking at is I can see more young people getting swept up in home ownership and pooling their resources, as couples, to purchase their first home - whether or not SHE or HE actually owns the place is another story.

Or what Paul said.

Or what Eli said.

Posted by Dougsf | May 16, 2007 3:44 PM
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I agree with @2.

Posted by Will in Seattle | May 16, 2007 3:52 PM
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Some studies have indicated that women are less likely than men to try negotiating better salaries when seeking a job - might it also be that women are less likely to aggressively haggle over prices in homebuying?

Posted by tsm | May 16, 2007 4:00 PM
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Or what about this: single women in a position to buy, being on the whole better-educated than single male counterparts at that income level, have done their homework on how stupid the market is right now. They are choosing to rent. Note that the article says 80% of downtown residents are renters. High-earning single women may be living quite comfortably in one of the posh apartment buildings, or renting one of the bajillion downtown condos that investors can’t unload.

Posted by tomasyalba | May 16, 2007 4:30 PM
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One thing to consider with the single woman income gap is that many young women elect to marry a man rather than try to make it on their own. Men don't have that option, really. Hence the gap.

You're not really driving single women out. They're just getting married.

Posted by Gomez | May 16, 2007 4:50 PM
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Women must just be bad at negotiating and marry white people for money and don't want to live in nice buildings and don't like living in expensive cities.

It must be ANYTHING besides that the deck is stacked against women because white male bosses decide salaries and white male developers set prices and white male bankers decide finance rates and white male politicians make the laws. Considering this is not even an option!

(Same goes with blacks and hispanics, they must just like stealing and being lazy, respectively.)

Posted by jamier | May 16, 2007 6:54 PM
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jamier, do you declare it impossible that _all_ of those things you mentioned, sexism included, are true? Or some subset of them? Or that some of them might be related to sexism? Or is it presumptuous for anyone to explore the issue beyond simply screaming "OMG SEXISM!!!" and leaving it at that?

Posted by tsm | May 16, 2007 7:38 PM
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Oh, and also: if you read the article, you see that the point is actually that the number of single women buying condos has DECREASED over the last few years. That decrease isn't quite as easy to explain with a simple "It's the WHITE MAN'S FAULT!", unless you're going to claim that white men weren't holding managerial positions and political positions in earlier days.

Posted by tsm | May 16, 2007 7:52 PM
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I guess it's good to know where single women are not living, but it would be even better to know where they ARE living. Anyone?

Posted by Sean | May 16, 2007 9:43 PM
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Also, “Females just can’t afford the prices downtown,” she said. “The biggest issue is affordability.” is kinda fresh coming from a condo marketer. Tell that your enablers ERRRR clients.

Posted by Gomez | May 16, 2007 11:04 PM
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I go to school with plenty of female engineers to be. If you want to make money than stop masturbating to women's lit and get a real profession.

Posted by Anonymous | May 17, 2007 5:32 AM
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#15: THANK YOU.

Relatedly, the under-45 men I know who got Liberal Arts degrees are making the same mediocre wages as the women I know who got Liberal Arts degrees. The women I know who have law degrees and engineering degrees (under 45) are making the same wages as the men I know who got law degrees and engineering degrees. There is still an advancement gap because women are still more likely to take time off for childcare somewhere in their 20s and 30s, but the studies don't show women as getting less money for the EXACT SAME degree, experience years and position.

Posted by Juliet | May 17, 2007 7:10 AM
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#15: THANK YOU.

Relatedly, the under-45 men I know who got Liberal Arts degrees are making the same mediocre wages as the women I know who got Liberal Arts degrees. The women I know who have law degrees and engineering degrees (under 45) are making the same wages as the men I know who got law degrees and engineering degrees. There is still an advancement gap because women are still more likely to take time off for childcare somewhere in their 20s and 30s, but the studies don't show women as getting less money for the EXACT SAME degree, experience years and position.

Posted by Juliet | May 17, 2007 7:11 AM
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@2 agreed 100%. That's the first thing I thought when I saw the headline.

the market is absolutely nuts right now and anyone who is buying is a fool.

Posted by investigatory journalist | May 17, 2007 12:57 PM
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