Comments on Impeach the Motherfucker Already
Like Salon pointed out on today's excellent piece, Bush will not be impeached because so many people, politicians, media, bloggers, newspapers( the editor here included) bought into his war and strong man policies that by impeaching him they will be admiting that they were wrong and complicit in the destruction and human carnage of Iraq and the obliteration of our civil liberties. Not to mention the very real possibility of WW3.
Feel good web sites and witty bumper stickers will do nothing to be rid of him.
I'd like to see these same questions asked in a scientific poll, as opposed to an online one. I'm all for ITMFA, but this poll doesn't accurately reflect what Americans think.
he doesn't have to be impeached based on the war--there are many other reasons for him to be impeached besides lying to the american public & to congress--incl the use of torture, spying on americans, illegal imprisonment w/o due process, ignoring the geneva convention, getting rid of habeas corpus for non-citizens, outing an american spy, etc. so let's impeach the motherfucker already!! (but impeach cheney first!!!)
Well I never even once thought war was an option. I never thought Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 or had WMDs.
I listened to Bush say at ground zero on 9/12 how if we let this disrupt our lives or compromise our values and standards as Americans then the terrorists win. I remember yelling at the tv, because even then I knew this asshat was going to use it as an excuse to start a war because his presidency, even that early on, was already shaping up to be a joke. And sure enough the bastard did exactly what I thought he would. He played off our fears and knee-jerk lust for revenge and started his ego war and has been trying to cover for it since. And oh look, now we have illegal wiretaps, no habeas corpus, and torture. America has become EXACTLY what Al Queda claimed we were in the first place. We proved them right. They won. All because America elected an drunken illiterate cowboy. That he got re-elected just added insult to injury.
So since I've always been anti-war I not only get to say "IMPEACH THAT MOTHER FUCKING IDIOT SON OF A BITCH ALREADY!" but I also get to say, "I told you so" to several Republicans who just don't want to hear it (sorry Dad).
My question/challenge is this. At this point, what WOULD have to happen to actually remove him from office? I mean how bad does it have to get? If he nuked Mecca would he still get that core 21% support (or would it go UP)?
As the Salon.com article points out, this horrible political inaction tells us as much about the citizens of this alleged democracy as it does about those ruling it. As the Muddle Classes stare into the abyss left behind by the Bushies, they stare into themselves.
Look, I don't like him either, but "Dancing with the Stars" is on tonight, and there's a sale on steaks at the QFC. Also, I'm having Pergo put in the kitchen, and the kids always have something going on. I just don't have time to deal with it.
It's too bad there isn't some mechanism by which the citizenry can initiate impeachment proceedings (or maybe it's a good thing there isn't - I'm not sure), but I'm fairly certain that we can't count on the House to even consider something so controversial this close to an election. The Republican members aren't interested in raising criminal issues in regard to one of their own, and the Democrats aren't going to show any militancy this close to the 2008 elections. If impeachment ever had a shot, it would have been in the last year of Bush's first term or the first couple of years of his second. But then, that's when the Republicans controlled the House and the Senate.
No, I'm afraid we're just stuck with this stink bomb (unless he commits high treason or does something highly, classically criminal) until Jan 2009. What would be more effectve in the long run is to analyze how something like George W. Bush becoming President ever happened in the first place and fixing that to make sure it never happens again. How sweet would that be? How did a political nobody with very little political experience become Governor of Texas and President of the United States in six short years? How did the Florida debacle ever happen? Why did the Supreme Court intervene in something seemingly way beyond its scope - a state's presidential election ballot recount? None of that stuff has ever really been answered or resolved.
Maybe we could get an intern to give him a blow-job. THAT'S an impeachable offense, apparently.
The Pres being the reason thousands are dead is not an impeachable offense. Look at God vs. Satan. God killed billions of people in the Bible. Satan killed 10. So Christians won't be so caring over the fact that Bush has cost us 6,000+ lives. That's nothin'.
The impeachable offense is the blowjob. It's so immoral, and Dan will agree, that frogs would start to fall from the sky (if we did not do anything about it). Heavens my!
We need to focus on getting out of Iraq (which the Democrats on the hill do not seem to have the balls to do) and win more Senate and House seats in 2008. The impeachment is not going to happen: Even if the idiot Bush was sodomizing a 5 year old boy in the Oval Office on live TV followed up by Bush eating the child's quivering flesh. The Media would spin it blaming the kid.
Let's face it we are all screwed. And have you all looked up the little Presidential Power provision that Bush signed this week? It gives him absolute power in case of a natural emergency. The the continuity of government laws passed in the 1950's (in case of nuclear war) except on steroids.
We need to focus on getting out of Iraq (which the Democrats on the hill do not seem to have the balls to do)
It's not really a case of "balls", Andrew. The only constitutional power that Congress has is to de-fund the troops. No law or bill could compel the President to withdrawal troops-- the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution places the President’s constitutional authority as commander-in-chief above statutes and treaties. Since de-funding the troops would be political suicide-- the swing voters who supported a Democratic majority in the last election are explicitly opposed to the de-funding solution --the Democrats are basically stuck. The only thing that might help would be if the press were to make a concerted effort to educate the public about the variables of the situation, but that's profoundly unlikely.
Ah Judah.....
They simply can choos not to send any more funding bills to Bush. (Have you read what John Edwards has been pushing?)(Also, read up on how we ended up getting out of Vietnam) Bush already Vetoed a funding bill so let it fall on him. Now the Democrats are taking ownership of the war along with the Republicans for not cutting the money off (See Dennis Kucinich's interview on Air America this morning).
Also, read up on how we ended up getting out of Vietnam
Okay… I’ve actually read quite a bit about how we got out of Vietnam. What version of that story are you thinking applies to the current situation? And if you think simply not sending a spending bill would somehow not be equated to de-funding the troops, I think you’re sorely mistaken. Political pressure will eventually take us out of Iraq, but the Democratic Congress isn’t going to be able to make just make it happen with a vote.
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