Oh, come on now Dan: If it weren't for the Mormon church, we never would have had one of the classic porn plots. It's right up there with the horny auto shop, the randy pizza guy, and the over-sexed hotel staff.
or angels in america.
Mitt's favorite book is Battlefield Earth. That trumps being a Mormon in the bat-shit crazy department for me/
#1 Don't forget Orgazmo.
I still hold that the only reason Romney was elected here in Mass was because his opponent was so thoroughly underwhelming. He's a turkey, and he neglected the state shamefully during his last two years in office so that he could focus on getting set to run for President (then again, that may not have been such a bad thing for us).
Having lived under his governance, though, all I can say is "blech!"
Angels in America!!!1!
Interestingly, Mitt's Mormonism is really the only thing noteworthy or compelling about him. He's a total tool. And sure, Mormonism is whacky, but it's not alone in that department---and it has a distinct "American-ness" (hence the central role it plays in Angels-an astoundingly great play/film, btw) that's fascinating. Watching the Christianists get all apoplectic over Romney and his "cult" alone makes Mormonism worth its weight in gold tablets.
Battlefield Earth? You mean he's embroiled in not one but TWO nutcase American-bred religions?
Anyone else ever been to Salt Lake City?
It's like Freakland Disney. Everything is clean, quiet and artificial looking. I felt like if I went far enough into any building I would find the entrance to the underground city that controlled the whole place and where all of the actors could get into character.
Every time someone mentions that place, I shutter a little.
That dude is my HERO. Can I worship him? I imagine its just drinking Kahula and dancing all night in Austrailia, which I am perfectly fine with. Hell, I'd go every week.
you posted this at 7:22 AM!!!
Those Romney ads during Olbermann always crack me up. Could they find a less receptive audience?* I'm sure the ads for The Nation(another Countdown sponsor) sell more subscriptions than donations to Romney.
Its not just that the politics are wrong for the show, its that these ads are so crappy technically. Even Fox viewers should be used to a certain level of visual technique and would laugh at them. These ads look and sound like midwestern congressional race ads from the 1980s. Or LDS ads from the same period.
*I'm sure it's part of a real cheap, big buy on MSNBC for every show. The fact that the Nation can run ads gives an idea of the pricing.
Romney was on Leno last night and not only was he not very impressive, he was more scary and manufactured than I previously thought. Says he's all for diversity in the church - actually pulled his car over and sang for joy when the 1978 decision was made to allow African-Americans to join the Morman church. He believes America is about celebrating all religions and all people who believe in God (what about those of us who don't?...um, DANGER! DANGER...Will Robinson!). He's neo-Reagan, but before I dismiss him, I'm warned by history that many people dismissed Reagan in the 60s and 70, too, as a nut case. And how did George W. ever, ever, ever happen? Aside from everything else, he'd just been a governor for 5 years before he was elected. That short a period of on-the-job training used to be considered way too inexperienced for the job of president. Yet the Republican Party was able to find the right wrapping paper. So, I ain't dismissing shit.
Anyway, Romney's another turd sandwich. Talked about how much he loves his wife of 40 years or whatever even though she has MS, but he's a Mormon through and through. That's pretty clear. You know how they sometimes come in cute packages? Gave a holla out to his friend in Ghana or Nigeria (I can't remember) doing "remarkable work bringing people into the Church." Another alarm sounds.
It would be just great if even one presidential candidate could convince me that they've taken just a high school level course in American Government.
First of all, they're MAGIC underwear.
Second of all...uh, there is no second of all...
That Australian guy is awesome. Now you're all gonna break my heart and tell me he's a LaRouche supporter or something, arent you?
I'm a bit jaded since my husband told me last night that Jordin Sparks is a right-wing pro-life zealot
What Bauhaus said. Cheers.
Another good Mormon movie is Ladder (or Latter) Days
I grew up in Salt Lake City (where I once got dragged to the principal's office for arguing with a fellow classmate about Darwin's theories--in elementary school), and in high school some friends and I seriously contemplated doing exactly what this guy did. It makes me so very happy because it so thoroughly and precisely exposes the Mormons for the hypocritical control freaks they really are.
I was raised Catholic in southeast Idaho (which may be even more Mormon than Utah itself) and I'd like to make 2 points:
1. Those LDS commercials from the mid-80s were FAWKING PRICELESS!!! I would give the tip of my right pinky finger if somebody would put all those muthahs up on YouTube. Oh, the hilarity.
2. While I think Romney's got a snowball's chance of winning even the GOP nomination, I think that you really have to have grown up non-Mormon in a predominantly Mormon culture to understand the level of pure pants-shitting terror that the idea of a Mormon president should inspire. I always thought that if really old-school, right in your face, crisp matching uniforms, V For Vendetta (the book not the movie) style fascism ever took hold in America that Mormonism would be the perfect mythology for its state religion (i.e. "America was full of good noble white people and Jesus came here after he died and then the evil brown people didn't like Jesus so they killed all the white people." Jeepers!)
That said, no fucking way will he win.
Trying to bring down Romney by attacking Mormonism isn't going to work. The only people who are going to get away with that kind of crap are coming from the extreme right, not the left or center. You'll shoot yourself in the foot. Believe me on this. If you want a Dem president after 2008, DO NOT ATTACK ANYONE'S RELIGION.
Romney's weak points are his hypocrisy and the extremely recent birthdates of most of his conservative viewpoints. Go after that instead.
Brilliant! Thanks. I just finished reading "The God Delusion" last week, so this was like a final summary.
Thanks for posting that link, Dan. That was the best five minutes of my day.
@24, I agree, let the Christian evangelicals fight with the Mormons within the repugs, keeping him from the nomination. Mormons drive them crazy. Romney was elected in Mass.* because (barely)enough people were tolerant enough of other religions. In a state with real evangelicals it wouldn't have happened.
*Thankfully Mass. finally got over their Dukakis shame and quit the Republicans in 2006, Weld was another weird R governor, the last proudly WASP elitist R.
well, there's Mormon democrats too, like senate majority leader Harry Reid.
People from Massachusetts have just told me that just the fact that Romney's a slimebag is enough reason for the country not to elect him
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