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<title>Slog - Comments on Every Child Deserves a Mother and a Father</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6</link>
<description>For nearly four years, a South Carolina man held his wife and two sons captive in a house infested with maggots and human waste, authorities said. The boys slept on a bare mattress as their mother was kept in a drug-induced stupor in a house that was decrepit except for a tidy one-room illegal gambling parlor run by Danny William Dove, police said. Police found maggots infesting the refrigerator. Human waste and used toilet paper littered the bathroom floor and the house smelled like a dead animal, according to police photographs and authorities who visited the home after Dove was...</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 12:42:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Ryan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is your point here? Just because you have a father and a mother you aren't necessarily going to be not-fucked-up?</p>

<p>Um. Yeah?</p>]]></description>
<author>Ryan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713275</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:38:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by dallas</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If these children has a grandmother, where has she been for the past four years? Did she ever wonder why her grandchildren never visited her? or why she never saw her daughter/daughter in law? Did she never visit? </p>

<p>Ah, the power of visiting your extended family every once-in-a-while.</p>]]></description>
<author>dallas</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713276</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 13:40:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Abusers are very skilled at isolating their victims from their families.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713286</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:03:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ChillyMama</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>We get your point, Dan.  Really.  Some people, hetero people, "breeders" as we are so politely referred to by members of the gay community, are really shitty parents.  The media reports the most egregious cases; you regurgitate them in the Slog.  Very few of these nasty stories involve gay parents.</p>

<p>You're now officially beating a dead horse while preaching to the choir.</p>]]></description>
<author>ChillyMama</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713289</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:09:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dan, please ignore #4. Thank you.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713294</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:16:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by summertime</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dan could you push the HPV debate forum up. Its gotten pretty interesting. Sometimes these get good and then its forgotten about what you strated in the first place. I'm just interested <br />
thats all on the overall feelings. I know yours and I stand by that, but lets all get to the bottom of it, and not just think it will go away. Its a hot topic.</p>]]></description>
<author>summertime</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713298</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:21:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ChillyMama</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing, Mr. Poe.  You spend time reading, again & again & again, about bad het parents and all the suffering they put on the world.  Blah blah blah blah.</p>

<p>Guess I'll just stick to the weekly advice column and forego the Slog altogether.  It's a shame, really.  Thought Dan wanted readers of all persuasions.</p>]]></description>
<author>ChillyMama</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713303</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713303</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:24:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by krw</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think the point here is that while LGBT parents are routinely challenged on their (my) ability to be a good parent, there are hetero parents who are just *awful*, and treat their (typically bio) terribly.  Often times, it seems these same awful hetero parents are also anti-gay everything, including parenting.</p>

<p>Hypocritical, eh?</p>

<p>As long as my parental abilities and rights are under attack by the right wing crazies, I'll sing soprano in the choir.</p>

<p>Namaste.</p>]]></description>
<author>krw</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713307</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713307</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:32:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by matthew fisher wilder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Complaints about "Every Child Deserves a Mother and a Father" are beating the dead horse.</p>

<p>The rotting smell is supposed to linger. That's the point.  If people completely unfit to be parents are given more rights than those who don't have rights just because of each's sex, then I cheer the continuation of ECDaMAaF.</p>

<p>I hope these all get publishef in a book one day, just a few copies made, and get sent to certain people in power who might have a chance of understanding the point.  It's a long shot, granted.</p>]]></description>
<author>matthew fisher wilder</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713317</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:41:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by sniggles</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't think gay people have used the term "Breeders" since the late 90s, and even then it was passe unless you were programming a jukebox. </p>]]></description>
<author>sniggles</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713318</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713318</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:43:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by maxsolomon</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>dan, you really aren't addressing stranger readers. the people you are talking to don't read the stranger. they read reader's digest & redbook.</p>]]></description>
<author>maxsolomon</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713319</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713319</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:44:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Levislade</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm straight and not having kids, and I use the term "breeders" sometimes.  Even when I'm not talking about Kim and Kelley Deal's band.</p>]]></description>
<author>Levislade</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713327</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:55:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by r</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>hey, I sent a link about this to Dan because I think he and Slog and Last Days do a public service by challenging us to remember the otherwise forgotten victims in our society.</p>

<p></p>

<p>They're reporting on things that are terribly painful to look at, and by doing so, they're raising awareness about the magnitude of child abuse in our society.  They're providing valuable internet real estate which might eventually stoke a public outcry sufficient to cause real change in child protective services.</p>

<p></p>

<p>To the folks that are miffed that these kind of issues are reported on Slog, how about complaining to your local elected officials that all this rampant child abuse is messing up your day?  Fixing the systems that allow these kind of atrocities to occur is the only way you'll get free of reports of horrific child abuse.</p>

<p></p>

<p>And I think that as long as there are people preaching that gay marriage endangers children and saying impossible things like only hetero marriages are good for kids, evidence will need to be collected that these kinds of claims are wrong and dangerous for kids.  So call your local elected officials and tell them you want Dan Savage to stop making you feel bad about your hetero privileges, and tell them to support gay marriage now.  I doubt Dan will stop speaking truth to power just because some feathers get ruffled along the way.</p>

<p></p>

<p>Seriously, folks, if you want Dan to shut up, do what you can to make this a more just and free society.  It's the only thing I can come up with to offer as a feasible solution to some of the concerns expressed in the comments.</p>]]></description>
<author>r</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713359</link>
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<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 15:40:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by mirror</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dan.</p>

<p>Keep reporting Every Child Deserves a Mother and a Father stories. The country needs to face this.</p>]]></description>
<author>mirror</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713746</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c713746</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 23:39:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gloria</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dan. I'm a straight girl, and I appreciate the posts. I find too many people believe that being able to have a child is some kind of inherent right, rather than something more akin to a sacred privilege.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Gloria</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c714466</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c714466</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 08:56:26 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jen</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Do you think your readers don't know that breeders abuse their kids? Do you think readers don't know that the powers-that-be who argue that queer parents are "unfit" are giant, hypocritical douchbags? Are you just being repetitive? Or, by simply pointing out another horrific story of abuse, are you trying to make the point that queer parents are the better choice because we can make the inference that queer parents won't abuse their children? C'mon! What a reductive way to make an argument.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Jen</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c714507</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c714507</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 10:36:17 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dan. Please keep on posting these. You may be beating a dead horse and preaching to the choir, but I would argue that as long as queer parents get blasted for being aberrant and considered the downfall of our great nation, pointing out the hypocrisies of straight people is a form of activism that is needed.</p>

<p>I would say if you give up, then things will slowly revert back to the hypocrisies that these social conservatives preach.</p>]]></description>
<author>David</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c715214</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c715214</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 22:49:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jonathon</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dan, keep on posting stories like this.  We must shove examples like this down the throats of those who claim that by virtue of our sexuality we are unfit to be parents.</p>

<p>And yes, I regularly use the term "breeders" to refer to heterosexuals.  I could care less if it offends them or not.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jonathon</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c715925</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c715925</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 06:21:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ChillyMama</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jen, I thought I was the only one.</p>

<p>Here's an idea: How about reporting on good things that same sex couples do with or for their children?  Perhaps the act of jamming bad het parenting down people's throats is what twisted my knickers in a knot.  I'd sure love to read about positive parenting experiences from same sex couples - who, in my opinion, deserve to be parents as much as het couples.</p>

<p>By the way, if it weren't for breeders, no one would be here - and same sex parents wouldn't have children to adopt.</p>]]></description>
<author>ChillyMama</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c716319</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/05/every_child_deserves_a_mother_and_a_fath_6#c716319</guid>
<category>Hetero</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 14:32:55 -0800</pubDate>
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