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Monday, April 30, 2007

The Verdict on Pedersen

posted by on April 30 at 10:11 AM

I may post more about this on a less busy day, but for now I can’t help noting this recent article in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer that looked at Seattle Rep. Jamie Pedersen’s first term in the state legislature.

I’m not sure I can describe the amount of pushback I got from coworkers here at The Stranger for suggesting, during our endorsement debates last fall, that Pedersen would probably make a good legislator, and would certainly get more done more quickly than Stephanie Pure, who ended up being The Stranger’s pick.

In particular, Josh Feit and Erica Barnett predicted that a Pedersen regime would be disappointing, annoying, and even corrupt. Did this doomsday scenario materialize?

Doesn’t look like it.

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Eli...

It's impossible to know how much Pure would have gotten done, and how quickly, since she's not in the legislature. You can credit JP without sliming SP.

Posted by Dan Savage | April 30, 2007 10:23 AM
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I don't care if he looks like a boy scout, Jamie rocks.

I know the ragamuffins around here like to bash him because he worked for PG&E, but a place like that teaches you how to get shit done.

Posted by Sean | April 30, 2007 10:26 AM
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After much back and forth, I voted for Pedersen and I'm glad I did. Keep pushing back. You were right!

Posted by Justy | April 30, 2007 10:31 AM
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I agree with, Dan, no need to slime Pure. If you're going to slime anyone, let it be Josh and Erica for stubbornly promoting Pure in this paper without disclosing that she's a good friend.

Posted by Sean | April 30, 2007 10:32 AM
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No shit it would be easy to write gay marriage legislation, Jamie. It was pretty simple to write the domestic partnership legislation too--just lift it from CA! I just wish we had a legislator who wasn't too chickenshit to draft legislation by and for the citizens of Washington.

Posted by annie | April 30, 2007 10:51 AM
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Well, he IS a tool, and tools do get things done*. That's why they're called tools.

* - on behalf of organizations and people with boatloads of money

Posted by Gomez | April 30, 2007 10:57 AM
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Also, I don't think Eli's point was so much to 'slime Pure' but simply to say that a) she would not have been as effective as the more-savvy Pedersen and b) that Pedersen isn't necessarily as ineffective as it was expected he'd be.

Now, whether or not these things are true is up for debate, but the point certainly wasn't to smear Pure's rep.

Posted by Gomez | April 30, 2007 11:00 AM
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Sean @ 2: Jamie still works for Preston Gates and Ellis, the law firm now known as K&L Gates. According to his website profile, he is Of Counsel in the Seattle office (a title often given an attorney who is neither an associate, nor a partner). Josh and Erica's concern wasn't that Jamie worked for PG&E, it was that he was likely to continue working for the firm after his election, given the low salary of state legislators. Let's be fair and note that they were correct.

Posted by J.R. | April 30, 2007 11:09 AM
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I didn't read it as Pure Sliming either. The Erica and Josh comments stood out more.

Does anyone else out there relish threads like these as an insight into Stranger office politics? I can practically hear the axes grinding.

Posted by JW | April 30, 2007 11:14 AM
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Or, it could just be people are tired of Reds and it's a Blue year.

Posted by Will in Seattle | April 30, 2007 11:26 AM
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Sliming, Dan? I assume we must be missing some background here like Eli skipping around the Stranger offices burning a Pure campaign t-shirt or something.

Posted by j | April 30, 2007 11:33 AM
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Eli, Dan's point is valid. Why would you assume that my sis would be unable to get things done?

Dan, thanks for highlighting this.

My understanding is that The Stranger's endorsement was granted after a fairly rigorous interview process.

Posted by Dave Pure | April 30, 2007 11:35 AM
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Eli, Dan's point is valid. Why would you assume that my sis would be unable to get things done?

Dan, thanks for highlighting what appears to be an error in Eli's logic.

My understanding is that The Stranger's endorsement was granted after a fairly rigorous interview process.

Posted by Dave Pure | April 30, 2007 11:43 AM
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I appreciate the back and forth within the Stranger staff. Who wants a bunch of dittoheads? Leave that to the neocons.


I don't see how it was sliming Pure either - it was just Eli's opinion, not a nasty comment. That said, I'm unsure what he bases it on - I'm sure Pure has learned something about getting things done while working on City Council staff. After all, she works for Peter Steinbrueck, not Nick Licata. In addition, Frank Chopp seemed very successful at making sure first-term D's got at least one of their bills passed.


What I'm really wondering is what Eli is going to do with his $12 for renewable energy.

Posted by Ebenezer | April 30, 2007 11:55 AM
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WHAT.

I appreciate the back and forth within the Stranger staff. Who wants a bunch of dittoheads?

Meanwhile...

Erica, Josh, Sarah Mirk, Annie Wagner, Dan Savage, and David Schmader opposed Pedersen.

Because Erica, Josh, Sarah Mirk, Annie Wagner, Dan Savage, and David Schmader all endorsed Pure. Erica, Josh and Dan all endorse the surface/transit option. And Peter Steinbrueck. And "smart growth." And need I cite a multitude of other examples? If this is not walking, talking, breathing dittothink, then what is?

I mean, do half of you readers have any critically thoughtful perspective? Or is the lack thereof what makes up the bulk of this rag's leadership?

Posted by Gomez | April 30, 2007 1:31 PM
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I wouldn't consider one nice article on Pederson the "verdict" on his term as a Rep. I think he did a decent job, but I don't think we can slap our hands together and walk away.

Kudos for a great article, Pederson. Now let's get the ball rolling for renters next year.

Posted by what? | April 30, 2007 1:36 PM
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@15


Yeah, I wrote that before reading Erica's post, which was up at the same time as mine.

I can see arguing issues on the merits - I don't understand the "everyone else thinks this way, why don't you?" mentality, whether it's Rush or anyone else.

Posted by Ebenezer | April 30, 2007 1:48 PM
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It's cool, Ebenezer. Just looking to maintain perspective.

Posted by Gomez | April 30, 2007 2:16 PM
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I mean, do half of you readers have any critically thoughtful perspective? Or is the lack thereof what makes up the bulk of this rag's leadership? twenty people pile on anyone who doesn't partake in group think, therefore the only people who stick around are the true believers. so to answer your question, no. the lack thereof is what makes up the bulk of this rag's readership as well.

on a related note: "You can credit {person a} without sliming {person b}." has to be the funniest thing i've read on slog. ever. i'm assuming it's working on an extra-dimensional level of irony that i'm not privy to.

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