Slog - Comments on Pride on the Water? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water After yesterday's vertiginous now-Pride-is-cancelled-and-now-it's-not updates, the Pride parade is slated for Fourth Avenue. Sweet Jesus, that’s good news. However, the Pride rally appears to be… non-existent? The LGBT Center has plans for something called Queerfest in Volunteer Park. But the idea of trudging two miles up hill after the parade makes me want to drink, starting now. Dan suggested marching right into Seattle Center without a permit and setting up camp on the lawn by the fountain. That might be kinda relaxing, until the police arrive in riot gear and tell us to haul our gay asses up the hill.... Copyright 2008 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:18:54 -0800 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:45:41 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by My Ass Hey, local community organizations: You are getting screwed by SOaP! What good is a Pride celebration without the festival for you? Are you really going to sign up new members and volunteers and collect donations while being pushed down Fourth Ave. by a gaggle of ugly drag queens on a flatbed truck behind you?

Save your entry fee--it would be a senseless waste of valuable resources to enter the parade with no benefit whatsoever.

Why no festival? Because SOaP needs to cut expenses so that it can use your hard-earned funds to pay off its bad debt. Just say no.

]]> My Ass http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701779 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701779 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:22:28 -0800 Comment by el ganador w00t! I agree - ME is a great interim solution, and it would be an awesome place to hang out and people watch for the afternoon. Plus plenty of space to set up vendors and whatnot...

]]> el ganador http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701784 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701784 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:23:28 -0800 Comment by el ganador Has it crossed anyone else's mind that maybe two separate orgs could produce the parade and the rally?
I know Dan suggested earlier that Tacky Tourists or someone could do it...but what about a new org with no baggage, and maybe some people who fundraise for a living?

C'mon...in this town there's got to be at least one queer who specializes in bizdev kinda stuff...right? right?

]]> el ganador http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701792 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701792 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:32:05 -0800 Comment by raindrop How about skipping the parade this year and have some make-do festival in Volunteer Park. Then we'll pay off the debts in be in the clear to have a financially sound parade and rally downtown in June '08. I think a parade every other year would make it less boring.

]]> raindrop http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701801 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701801 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:38:07 -0800 Comment by Parade = $ The parade is the money, people. So, having two organizations involved doesn't help, because in order to produce the festival, you need the entry fees for the parade. Capiche? Therefore, SOaP is going to produce the parade, save on the production of the festival by cancelling it, and take all of the proceeds from the parade to pay off last year's debacle. This is SOaP's debt repayment plan and has little if anything to do with Pride or community or visibility.

Where exactly will the LGBT Center, or any other organization, get the funds to produce the festival?

]]> Parade = $ http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701809 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:47:55 -0800 Comment by codes Good lord that picture looks awful. I miss the parade going by my house on sunday morning to wake me up from my pride hang over.

]]> codes http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701817 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701817 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:52:23 -0800 Comment by Dan Savage How about the LGBT Center go ahead with their Saturday events, and the SOaP go ahead with their Sunday parade?

]]> Dan Savage http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701819 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701819 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:52:37 -0800 Comment by meh Myrtle Edwards Park is the perfect location for a post parade festival. Hempfest has been putting on incredible festivals in this park for years and it's well set up to hold many many people. Did I also mention it's beautiful and right in the heart of downtown?

The only downside is that pesky narrow entrance, thanks ever-so-much to SAM and the Olympic Sculpture Park. But the park is viable, the city must recognize that and make the park accesible for special events.

That way both the gays and the hippies will give SAM nightmares about touching their art!

]]> meh http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701827 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701827 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:57:12 -0800 Comment by emjava Damn, if the Seattle stoners can pull off the largest hempfest in the country, you'd think the Seattle 'mos could pull it together.

]]> emjava http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701846 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701846 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:09 -0800 Comment by Parade = $ Dan @ 5: I think if SOaP will agree to give a percentage of its take from parade entry fees to the LGBT Center to produce the festival (in the same proportion that production of the festival last year bore to production of the parade last year), you might be on to something. Otherwise, where does the Center get the money to produce the festival? Charge local community organizations for the festival, too? Thankfully, they are all flush with cash for this kind of bullshit, right? Or, charge an entry fee to the public--now there is an idea that will ensure a direct trajectory to the Cuff for CeCe Penniston.

]]> Parade = $ http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701851 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701851 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:10:44 -0800 Comment by elswinger Stoners vs. Mos in a Battle Royale.

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701852 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701852 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:11:28 -0800 Comment by monkey Stoners v. Mos? Damn it, whose side do I take? I'M SO CONFUSED!

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701887 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701887 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:31:38 -0800 Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me Here’s a modest proposal: Let some other group (Tacky Tourists?) organize a function at ME Park in partnership with SOaP (for the right to use “Pride Seattle” or what ever the hell the brand name is). Charge vendors who are selling shit (food, beer, whatever) to get access, let service groups set up booths for free if they are in the parade and for corresponding fee if they are not, find a sponsor (The Stranger?) to bring in a DJ & sound system, take advantage of the narrow entrance to shame the tight ass fags in this town to donate to defray the cost of the event (with excess proceeds going to paying the bill for last years party that we all enjoyed so much) (Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence might be good at this) give them a sticker good for a discount off a sponsored beer garden (Bud Lite?) if they do donate, and your done. This is not that hard. I thought we were supposed to be good as this kind of stuff…

]]> You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701891 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701891 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:34:50 -0800 Comment by Gomez LOL guys. Pride was not going to get cancelled. There are way too many people who want Pride to happen for it to have never happened.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701947 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701947 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:14:32 -0800 Comment by Michael McAfoose As a Board member of the Tacky Tourists Clubs of America, I can tell you now that we would not have the time or the energy to spend on this because in June we are in the middle of planning this years cruise and our efforts will concentrated on that.

Sign up for cruise alerts at www.ttca.org

]]> Michael McAfoose http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701960 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701960 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:26:23 -0800 Comment by Explorer ME Park is a great idea... for next year. This late in the game, I don't think any organization would want to touch that one with a ten-foot donation bucket.

This year, we've got a downtown parade and post-parade activities ranging from Rat City Rollergirls and an impromptu Seattle Center fountain frolic to the usual events on Capitol Hill. And LGBT can do their thing in Volunteer Park.

Given the current situation, that should be enough to keep the majority of people happy and entertained. Next year: a bigger, better and more cohesive Pride as time & support will allow.

]]> Explorer http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701977 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c701977 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:36:01 -0800 Comment by adrian! the pride rally will be held this year in my bathtub.

]]> adrian! http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702032 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702032 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:36:14 -0800 Comment by Dominic Holden I'm so there.

]]> Dominic Holden http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702087 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702087 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:20:59 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways I think Dan and Terry should plan the Festival...I went to their anniversary thing at ReBar a couple years ago and it was GREAT!!

How big is their backyard?

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702141 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702141 Homo Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:17:23 -0800 Comment by voyeur Voyeur agrees with Explorer!!! Stay Focused.
I would love to see Gay Pride on the water front. Tacky Tourists can lead the chant of "we're out we're proud" when the cruise ships cruise slowly by M.E. Park, just like the Stoners do their Hemp cheer. Beside the wind off the water will help your flags fly stiffer.

]]> voyeur http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702745 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702745 Homo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:47:39 -0800 Comment by voyeur How did those artists for SAM not see the real connection between pot and art? Can any one of the people who designed the sculpture park say they have never smoked pot? I think they have been smoking that extra potent stuff the ignorama's have been hyping. Do you really think they'll see the real connection between homosexuals ad art and expand their tight ass entry for them? Reality doesn't always make it thru the eyes of the rich people.

]]> voyeur http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702759 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702759 Homo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 08:58:14 -0800 Comment by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me No, actually, I think its just that rich people don't like it when people urinate on their stuff. Funny, that.

]]> You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702769 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702769 Homo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:04:55 -0800 Comment by JT And all of you who are slinging rocks and arrows at the Pride Committee have volunteered for many years, made donations to the organization and otherwise helped out, correct?

]]> JT http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702938 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c702938 Homo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:11:21 -0800 Comment by belltownfag I for one LOVED the downtown parade. I don't care for a giant celebration in the park afterwards. Besides, at previous parades I only went to the park for like 5 minutes and then I was like "Let's GO!" It is really sad that the gay groups in this town can't work together on something as wonderful as PRIDE. Produce a nice parade then let the bars host their own after events. Save your money!

]]> belltownfag http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c703487 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/pride_on_the_water#c703487 Homo Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:45:41 -0800