Slog - Comments on Who You Calling A Butch? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson From the New York Post: One of them was "slightly pretty," so the freelance film director decided to say hi. Next thing he knew, he was encircled, beaten and knifed in the gut right there on a Greenwich Village sidewalk - by seven bloodthirsty young lesbians. "The girls started coming out of nowhere," Dwayne Buckle told a Manhattan jury yesterday, describing the bizarre beat-down he suffered last summer, allegedly at the hands of a seething sapphic septet from Newark, N.J. "I felt like I was going to die." Buckle, 29, of Queens, took the stand in Manhattan Supreme Court yesterday... Copyright 2008 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:54:40 -0800 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:01:13 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by infrequent who made the first physical contact?

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692530 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692530 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:31:06 -0800 Comment by Sachi Oh, uh-uh. Much as I demand respect for women, committing a felony assault is not the right response absent a need for self defense. Period. If those young women did not need to defend themselves, they had no legal right to use force.

Let's not turn this into the lesbian version of a gay panic defense, now.

]]> Sachi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692541 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692541 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:45:32 -0800 Comment by elswinger He might have deserved to get his as kicked, but he shouldn't have been stabbed repeatedly.

Never the less, we now have two new cool band names:

"Seven Bloodthirsty Young Lesbians"

and

"The Seething Sapphic Septet."

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692552 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692552 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:50:46 -0800 Comment by Gomez Yeah, what elswinger et al said. No matter what you think about fists flying and bigoted insults, the line is drawn at knives and guns.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692562 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692562 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:55:10 -0800 Comment by matthew Amen Charles, A-fucking-men!

]]> matthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692577 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692577 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:00:30 -0800 Comment by matthew Very VERY respectfully to gomez--- have you ever been discriminated against for being gay?
When someone tries to tear you down just for being gay, I think guns and knives are very appropriate. Its time people stop assuming we will just take it. Its time for GLBT's to fucking fight back. In Eddie Murphy's homophobic "Delirious"(one of my favs actually of his stand ups) he says "the guy wadn't just a faggot, he was a kick your ass faggot"

]]> matthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692586 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692586 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:05:41 -0800 Comment by Max Solomon "When someone tries to tear you down just for being gay, I think guns and knives are very appropriate."

I think that's a Ghandhi quote.

Wait, i mean Osama Bin Laden.

]]> Max Solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692593 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692593 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:09:31 -0800 Comment by Jeff Nobody deserves any of that shit. Not the verbal assault, even less the physical one.

]]> Jeff http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692599 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692599 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:13:38 -0800 Comment by what a shame So somebody calls you a name, and that makes it okay to slash away at his vital organs? I am all for a good ole fashioned ass whoopin', but there is quite a big difference between that and atempted murder....

]]> what a shame http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692603 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692603 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:14:31 -0800 Comment by elswinger Unless, Matthew, your argument is that, if YOU are getting a beat down because you're gay, or whatever, you need to use a gun or knife to defend yourself, then I would support you.

But if you were walking down the street and someone said "Hey fag," so you shot them in the face, sorry, you're on your own on that.

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692621 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692621 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:24:47 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi I remember hearing about the attack when it first happened. He's a fucking asshat for trying to put all the blame on those women, but, even asshats don't deserve to get knifed.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692622 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692622 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:26:32 -0800 Comment by Sam Nothing says I'm nearing 4 p.m. on a Thursday like reading about a horde of shanking lesbians on Slog.

Beautiful.

]]> Sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692654 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692654 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:52:36 -0800 Comment by wench Much as I demand respect for women, committing a felony assault is not the right response absent a need for self defense. Period. If those young women did not need to defend themselves, they had no legal right to use force. The gist I get from the articles is that he did actually attack them first. No defense of the knifing or anything, but it does say that him grabbing the one by the throat and choking her was caught on the security camera.]]> wench http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692670 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692670 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:58:15 -0800 Comment by Sean matthew #6: "have you ever been discriminated against for being gay?"

No, but I've been discriminated against, even assaulted, for being a white male (and in one instance for having long hair). Perhaps you, too, have been targetted as a white male, assuming you are white and grew up in the city, rode public transportation, and attended public schools.

Regardless, none of the perps should have been repeatedly stabbed in the stomach and liver, then told to shut up and "move on".

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692674 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692674 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:01:54 -0800 Comment by Gitai Those violent lesbians are the vanguard of young lesbian culture:

http://www.villagevoice.com/nyclife/0715,hilliard,76321,15.html

]]> Gitai http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692686 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692686 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:08:04 -0800 Comment by matthew Very Respectfully to Sean, yes I did get my ass kicked regularly growing up one of the only white kids in rural Alaska. The Natives did not like us there and my Dad worked for Big oil, not much I could do, but being a gay white man, I've certainly learned to defend myself.
To all, yes I went overboard stating that guns/knives were appropriate and I take it back, it was a pseudo joke aimed at all out there who think us fags will just sit back and take it. A Hate crime is a Hate crime is a Hate crime. Does a Straight person have the right to slit my throat because they hate gays? Do I have the right to slash a straight persons throat because I hate them right back? OF COURSE NOT!
Do straight people have the right to take my rights and freedoms away? No, but they chisel away at them daily with much success all across the country and the world.
Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

Truthfully I only condone what the woman did IF AND ONLY IF it was self defense. Did I smile a bit reading it? YOU BET YOUR ASS!

]]> matthew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692699 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692699 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:15:08 -0800 Comment by Sean Even if the guy was the instigator (not clear from Charles' post), it's seems she started stabbing him after he'd been neutralized by a kick-circle of lesbians (and, yes, it's hard not chuckle at that image).

I don't think that legally qualifies as a self defense scenario (at least in WA).

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692725 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692725 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:33:13 -0800 Comment by Gomez Matthew, I've been called a faggot gook enough times to know I'm qualified enough to tell you that you can get over it without stabbing or shooting somebody.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692738 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692738 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:43:55 -0800 Comment by something else i love ass kicking lesbians, i wish i could be adopted into their gang.

]]> something else http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692758 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692758 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:04:46 -0800 Comment by DKJ That's why you don't leave witnesses.

]]> DKJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692807 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692807 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:28:26 -0800 Comment by SDA in SEA If he started it and grabbed one of them by the throat, I'm all for him getting a nice well deserved beating. But if seven of them were kicking his ass, then the knife should have stayed in the purse. A few bruises and a black eye, maybe even a broken nose... no problem. Slicing his liver? Not cool.

]]> SDA in SEA http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692818 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/life_lesson#c692818 News Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:01:13 -0800