Slog - Comments on Fuck "Foodie" (or: Hello 1994!) http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie I thought the word "foodie" (that sneaky, silly word) was going where it should—into the grave. I hadn't heard it in awhile. Hadn't read it in awhile. Thought it was dead. Was glad. But then, yesterday, I got an email that included the phrase: "... all my 'foodie' (god how I hate that word) friends." To which I replied: "I always thought 'foodie' was just a shame-faced way of saying 'gourmand'—with both the epicurean connotations and the gluttonous, I-just-love-to-eat connotations." To which she replied: "For me, 'foodies' are those annoying, pretentious people who claim to LOVE food and know the... Copyright 2008 Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:46:07 -0800 Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:02:21 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by vc While I love the rant and agree with your position, the word's here to stay. Sorry.

]]> vc http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689360 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689360 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:23:43 -0800 Comment by Baxter That's just a blank media spindle appropriated for bagels!

]]> Baxter http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689362 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689362 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:26:47 -0800 Comment by alto Lord yes. Anyone who willingly listens to The Splendid Table should email me for a punch to the face.

]]> alto http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689364 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689364 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:28:58 -0800 Comment by Gloria Dollar store tupperware?

]]> Gloria http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689365 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689365 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:29:37 -0800 Comment by booyeah Yeah, and while you're at it, stop calling yourselves "hipsters" and just say, "elitists."

]]> booyeah http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689366 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689366 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:30:54 -0800 Comment by Brendan Kiley "Hipster" is number two on my linguistic hit list.

]]> Brendan Kiley http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689367 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689367 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:32:32 -0800 Comment by Jonah S Oh my god! The bagel spindle might be the greatest thing ever. If I used one of those 50cd spindles I could probably sneak a donut in there too!

]]> Jonah S http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689371 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689371 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:35:41 -0800 Comment by sniggles I don't mind foodie. It rolls off the tongue with ease and effectively describes many of my friends. On the other hand, I could never call a person a "gourmand" without rolling my eyes or making a big, silly production of it.

And I adore the bagle holder! (though, what happens to the meat in the middle of the sandwich?)

]]> sniggles http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689372 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689372 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:35:45 -0800 Comment by flamingbanjo Plus, on paper it looks like it should rhyme with "hoodie" and yet it doesn't. Not even a little bit! Wrap your head around that!

]]> flamingbanjo http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689376 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689376 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:39:32 -0800 Comment by Squagel "Hey, old man. Here's you eating your bagel. Mmm, *drop*, roll away. Boo Hoo! Here's me, eating my bagel. Mmm, *drop* stays right there!"

]]> Squagel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689378 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689378 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:44:32 -0800 Comment by Trey Love the bagel spindle? Picture 10,000 of them lying in your local landfill for the next 10,000 years. Still in love? Wrap your fucking bagel sandwich in a sheet of fucking paper, people.

]]> Trey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689381 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689381 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:48:06 -0800 Comment by chops i thought the preffered term today by foodies was fooder.

]]> chops http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689386 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689386 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 12:52:20 -0800 Comment by Brendan Kiley Dear Trey: I hate to piss on your hate-parade but the bagel spindle is actually a secondary usage of a CD spindle. Once you've burned all your blank CDs, you can still use the spindle instead of throwing it away.

You know, recycling.

]]> Brendan Kiley http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689394 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689394 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:02:19 -0800 Comment by Hate Parade Actually that would be reuse.

]]> Hate Parade http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689397 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689397 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:07:19 -0800 Comment by Webster recycle: "to use again, especially to reprocess: 'recycle aluminum cans, recycle old jokes'; to adapt to a new use or function."

]]> Webster http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689400 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:12:58 -0800 Comment by Trey Brendan, thanks for the clarification - at first, I thought this was a new way that bagel shops were packaging their products, not a re-use of a blank media spindle. If that's the case, I'm pro-spindle. But why is my post a "hate parade" - because I used the word "fucking" twice in my response to your post entitled, "Fuck Foodie" (in which you use the words "fuck", "figgity-fuck", and "goddamned")?

]]> Trey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689402 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689402 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:13:56 -0800 Comment by Brendan Kiley There's nothing wrong with a little hate parade, Trey. You get mad at landfills and I'll get mad at silly-sounding words. Let you and I march, arm in arm, hating together.

]]> Brendan Kiley http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689411 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689411 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:22:03 -0800 Comment by Otter But every good hiker knows that the whole reason to use a bagel for your sandwich is that it doesn't get squashed like a sliced bread sandwich, with or without the thoughtful reuse for a spindle.

]]> Otter http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689413 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689413 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:22:45 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale Instead of calling yourself a foodie, duder, just tell people you cook about 5 times a week and go grocery shopping about 10 times a week.

PS -- @3 the mere mention of The Splendid Table made me start swinging punches wildly into the air as if an obeah man was sneaking up to steal me shadow.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689414 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689414 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:30:41 -0800 Comment by Tom C. When I used to work for Food.com back in the good ol' days, we referred to ourselves as "foodies".

]]> Tom C. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689415 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689415 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:30:43 -0800 Comment by tsm Foodie, or metrosexual: Which term's use should carry a harsher prison sentence? Discuss.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689417 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:33:35 -0800 Comment by anna If I can't use foodie or hipster to describe those pretensious twits, what should I use?

]]> anna http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689424 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689424 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:42:38 -0800 Comment by HORAT!OSANZSER!F I agree with the repulsiveness of this term. It unfortunately only seems to apply to massive-assed white women with adult braces and small dogs and/or large cats. I also suspect that these "foodies" read Pam Sitt regularly.

@10: David Cross ha ha.

]]> HORAT!OSANZSER!F http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689425 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689425 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:42:49 -0800 Comment by tsm @22 - I think you answered your own question.

]]> tsm http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689428 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689428 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:48:11 -0800 Comment by Paul Chris Onstad, the brilliant mind behind the brilliant strip Achewood, put it well on his blog:

It's an idiotic term, and an embarrassment of the age. Like food is something we discovered in 1995. As though it were a novelty thing. There were already words, and good ones. Which are you? (These are pared down to their barest essence)

EPICURE/GOURMET: One who enjoys good food and drink.

GOURMAND: One who enjoys good food and drink in large quantities.

GASTRONOME: One who enjoys not just food, but its history and sociology.

Where does "foodie" fit in? I don't know. To me it rhymes with "poprophiliac."

]]> Paul http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689437 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689437 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:55:07 -0800 Comment by hunh? I was just conversing with a friend the other day about HATING bagel sandwiches. Maybe it stems from my first job in Seattle at Noah's Bagels on Broadway or my mouth just not being that big; literally. But how does one eat that thing, seriously? A bagel is WAY too big of bread for a sandwich. That’s why you cut them in half and eat one half at a time! No one stuffs the whole darn thing their mouth. A bagel sandwich is quite frankly ludicrous.

]]> hunh? http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689452 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689452 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:15:23 -0800 Comment by Fnarf The correct term is "eater". If that's too plebian for you, you should adjust your attitude, not your terminology. Most "foodies" eat even more heavily-processed junk than fatties from idaho; they just buy it in little tiny jars from Italy.

The bagel thingie ignores the fact that a good bagel as often as not doesn't have a clear opening down the middle, and NEVER has an opening once the sandwich fixins have been applied. Don't tell me you punch a hole in your cheese, ham, lettuce too?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689518 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689518 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:42:19 -0800 Comment by lauren >Don't tell me you punch a hole in >your cheese, ham, lettuce too?

Why yes, it would. It mustn't die a virgin.

]]> lauren http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689525 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689525 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:50:07 -0800 Comment by Andy I think the word "gourmand" is a lot more pretentious. I prefer "foodie," because it sounds like anyone can participate.

]]> Andy http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689532 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689532 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:00:43 -0800 Comment by Brendan Kiley And that's the problem. The word is a trick, a lie--not everyone can spend their time and money developing a palate for the different shadings of acidic in a variety of varietal vinegars. If you want to be that kind of person, admit what you are: a gourmand. (Or a gourmet, if you're on a diet.)

]]> Brendan Kiley http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689539 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689539 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:11:00 -0800 Comment by glug glug glug 33333 i drink ssome asalchol a LOT and i KNOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWwwwwww how it tastes &&& tellisng the difference. Iam a DRINKIE!

]]> glug glug glug http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689571 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689571 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:55:16 -0800 Comment by SDA in SEA I am the anit-foodie. I basically don't cook. I microwave. If it has more than 3 generic ingredients, I'm lost. I can successfully boil water. Beyond that, my skills are seriously tested. My palette is completely pedestrian. I am perfectly happy at any old Chinese or Thai joint. In my defense, this makes me a relatively cheap and easily-to-please date. Oh, and my taste in wine is about the same. As long as it doesn't come in a plastic lined box, I'm probably fine with it.

]]> SDA in SEA http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689590 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689590 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:19:36 -0800 Comment by Boomer in NYC Jeepers, you're from Seattle right? 'Cause it shows.

]]> Boomer in NYC http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689610 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689610 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 18:31:41 -0800 Comment by kt brendan, you said "linguistic hit list". i love you forever.

]]> kt http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689620 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689620 Chow Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:22:09 -0800 Comment by delfina jones Gee Willikers- sorry you are so upset. I know YOU don't care but for those bagel lovers sidetracked by the bagel carrier ---- try CASCADE bagels in Tacoma. Boiled not baked. Best in the NW.

]]> delfina jones http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689688 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689688 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 07:18:04 -0800 Comment by Food Eater @5 Dude, nobody actually calls themselves a hipster. You're so not down. Read your handbook again.

@ OP...Gourmand? Fucking elitist.

]]> Food Eater http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689858 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689858 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:00:12 -0800 Comment by him Brendan - I suggest at the next Iraq war protest, you march around with a sign that says "I hate Foodies".

]]> him http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689895 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c689895 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:23:05 -0800 Comment by Geni I went to dinner at a friends' house once, and they actually served fried sage leaves. As an appetizer. Yes, these people call themselves foodies, and ridicule any food preparation that doesn't take at least 15 ingredients, 10 pots, and half a day.

Gah. Screw that. Give me a nice can of soup anyday. It's just fuel, people. No wonder people are so damn fat, all they ever think about, talk about, obsess about, is food.

]]> Geni http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690003 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:04:25 -0800 Comment by Fnarf If it's not boiled AND baked, it's not a bagel. I don't care how many holes it has.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690047 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690047 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:05:55 -0800 Comment by lilblackcat Bagelspindle = Brilliant!

]]> lilblackcat http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690104 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/fuck_foodie#c690104 Chow Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:02:21 -0800