Comments on Did Soul Force Change BYU?

Even if Soul Force can’t be fully credited with the policy change, their efforts are still worthwhile.

While it’s true that arguing against biblical literalism won’t work from a purely analytical standpoint, robots aren’t the ones listening to the Soul Force lectures. They’re ordinary people whose opinions are swayed by emotions and familiarity with different people. The students at religious institutions don’t get out there in the world much, but it looks like Soul Force brings the “out there” to them. The result: Tolerance grows and bigotry erodes.

Activism can't always produce deliverables like a manufacturing company or a legislator, but, then again, neither does making political commentary on blogs. It's still valuable and deserves to be supported, Eli.

if byu (aka, the zoo) is softening its stance of homosexuality, then you can look for the church itself to be more accepting over time. that school doesn't make a move without checking in with temple square.

you aren't allowed to fuck at BYU? i realized it was a religious school, but so it BC, ND, and many others, and they don't have rules like this, do they?

It's interesting that this change did not appear in either of Salt Lake's daily newspapers, especially the Deseret Morning News, which is owned by the Mormon Church.

There is a broad community of current and past mormons who are working on this very issue. I applaud the effort that Soul Force gave, as it created yet another opportunity for those of us engaged in this ongoing, daily debate to get some traction.

While yes, this change may seem substantive, it's probably not. For example, where they say that individuals must uphold the so-called law of chastity, I'm guessing that two gay individuals still can't openly kiss or even hold hands on campus, unlike straight students.

BYU and the LDS Church will change primarily because this issue is causing them to lose membership. Families are being split and moving on. That will catch up with the Church, which, contrary to lazy reporting, is no longer "the fastest growing religion in America."

I'm one of the gay BYU students who wrote a letter to BYU administration and subsequently met with them to get the clarification on Honor Code changed. It's kinda pissing us all off tat Soul Force is taking credit for this change. We had been meeting with administration before they came, and feel that that group's protests were counter-productive to our cause. We wish they would never come back. Instead of presenting a face of reason and willingness to communicate, Soul Force delivered a busful of contradictory, stereotypical weirdoes, several of whom were arrested for breaking the University's policies against on-campus protesting. Their visit to our campus only served to alienate us further from the status quo.

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