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<description> Grab a calculator. 1. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code) 2. Multiply by 80 3. Add 1 4. Multiply by 250 5. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number 6. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again 7. Subtract 250 8. Divide by 2 Recognize the answer? Can someone explain to me--before I get stoned--how the fuck this works?...</description>
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<title>Comment by Jeff</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh</p>

<p>Work backwards?</p>

<p>No fuckin clue.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jeff</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697047</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:44:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elswinger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Trippy</p>]]></description>
<author>elswinger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697049</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:45:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kate</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I did it wrong...what's the answer supposed to be?</p>]]></description>
<author>Kate</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697051</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:46:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by arduous</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>x=first three digits<br />
y= last four digits</p>

<p>250(80x+1)-><br />
20,000x +250-><br />
20,000x +250 +y -><br />
20,000x +250 +2y -><br />
20,000x + 250 +2y -250 -><br />
10,000x +y -></p>

<p>basically a lot of math to multiply the first three digits by 10,000 and then add the last four digits</p>]]></description>
<author>arduous</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697053</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:48:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Habib</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>So, as a forumla this is:<br />
<p><br />
(((80x + 1) * 250 + 2y) - 250) * 0.5<br />
<p><br />
where x is the first three digits of your phone number and y is the last four digits. <br />
<p><br />
We can reduce this as follows:<br /><br />
0.5 * ((80x + 1) * 250 + 2y) - 125<br /><br />
(80x + 1) * 125 + y - 125<br /><br />
125 * 80x + 125  + y - 125<br /><br />
125 * 80x + y<br /><br />
10000x + y<br /><br />
<p><br />
Note that the effect of multiplying by 10000 is to shift the first three digits of your phone number left by four digits, effectively "making room" for the last four digits.<br />
<p><br />
So really someone just did the simple thing (multiply by 10000) then factored in a bunch of silly ways to obfuscate what they were doing.  That's pretty much the standard operating procedure for stuff like this.</p></p></p></p></p></p>]]></description>
<author>Habib</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697054</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:48:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>1. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)</p>

<p>2.  Multiply by 10,000.</p>

<p>3. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number...</p>

<p>look familiar?</p>

<p><i>amazing!!!  how can math possible do such amazing things???</i></p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697055</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kush</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>A=prefix B=4 digit number</p>

<p>Formula [(80A + 1) x 250 +B +B -250]/2</p>

<p>= [20000A +250 +2B -250]/2</p>

<p>=[20000A +2B]/2</p>

<p>= 10000A +B</p>

<p>Plug in A say 323 and it becomes 3230000 and B 7101 add them together  and you get</p>

<p>3237101</p>]]></description>
<author>Kush</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697057</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Noink</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Damn, you beat me to it.  And it's not THAT arduous.</p>]]></description>
<author>Noink</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697058</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:49:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Carollani</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, they ask you for your phone number so they pretty much just make you jump through hoops before they give you back what you put in.</p>

<p>It's like a psychic telling you exactly what you've told them and making it sound like they already knew.</p>]]></description>
<author>Carollani</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697059</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:50:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by arduous</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>oh, those are arrows at the end. i realized too late that that looked weird.</p>]]></description>
<author>arduous</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697060</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:50:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>[condescension]</p>

<p>1. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)</p>

<p>2.  Multiply by 10,000.</p>

<p>3. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number...</p>

<p>look familiar?</p>

<p><i>amazing!!!  how can math possible do such amazing things???</i></p>

<p>[/condescension]<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697061</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:50:57 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by oigo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, there seem to be a lot of steps added in just to make things seem more complicated than they are. You're actually just adding the last 4 digits of your telephone number (let's call them "defg") to the first 3 (called "abc") times 10000. </p>

<p>In other words: (abc x 10000) + defg = abcdefg.</p>

<p>I've broken it down into three parts where the puzzle maker tried to confound what's actually happening. Here they are:</p>

<p>1)80x250=20000<br />
  20000/2 = 10000<br />
  10000x(abc)= abc0000</p>

<p>2)80+1=81<br />
  81x250=20250<br />
  20250-250 = 20000<br />
  20000/2 = 10000<br />
  10000x(abc) = abc0000</p>

<p>3)(defg)+(defg) = 2d2e2f2g<br />
  2d2e2f2g = 2(defg)<br />
  2(defg)/2 = defg<br />
  abc0000+defg = abcdefg</p>

<p>I know that's not a very mathematically correct way to show how this works, but it makes sense to me.</p>]]></description>
<author>oigo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697065</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:55:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Wordboy Dave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>As a case of obfuscation, though, it's pretty damned brilliant.  At no point does a suspicious "1,000" or other large round number even enter the picture, and half of the operations seem designed to undo the damage you did by simply adding 1.  Very nicely done!  </p>]]></description>
<author>Wordboy Dave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697067</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:57:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bryan in the UK</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Well done, fellow math nerds!</p>

<p>You will also note that the rule about not using the area code is pure stagecraft. But isn't that the whole point?</p>]]></description>
<author>Bryan in the UK</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697071</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:00:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bryan in the UK</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I guess what I said in post 14 isn't quite true; the effect wouldn't be as cool if you gave it your area code and the last four digits, then it just spat them right back out in order.</p>

<p>Won't some enterprising soul come up with a version that also incorporates the area code?  Then it will look even more convoluted and impressive!</p>]]></description>
<author>Bryan in the UK</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697077</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:06:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by catnextdoor</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, all these math nerds at the slog is kinda sexy!</p>]]></description>
<author>catnextdoor</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697078</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:08:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NapoleonXIV</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations, Dude.</p>

<p>You've just given over your phone number to The Man.  </p>]]></description>
<author>NapoleonXIV</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697085</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:17:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i <i>know</i>!!! i'm crank calling <br />
ABC-DEFG right now!!!</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697106</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:33:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by monkey</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Math is hard</p>]]></description>
<author>monkey</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697112</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:36:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by --MC</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase the late Mr. Vonnegut, if you think Arabs are stupid, remember that they gave us our numbers -- try doing that trick with Roman numerals.</p>]]></description>
<author>--MC</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697119</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:47:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by maxsolomon</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>arabs are stupid. after all, they're monotheists. </p>]]></description>
<author>maxsolomon</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697133</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:54:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Ryno</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow, y'all's a bunch of math-e-ma-JISH-uns.  PS-I wish I still had the frame of mind to figure that out. And I'm only 23. I've peaked.</p>]]></description>
<author>Ryno</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697136</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:58:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kush</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Just for Dan - no help from the audience</p>

<p>Three businessmen need a hotel room (this is an old riddle) and the clerk gave them a room for $30 - after they went up he realized that he had overcharged for the room, it was really only twenty-five dollars.  He called the bellhop over and sent him up with 5 one dollar bills to give the men a refund. The bellhop couldn't figure out how to divide the five among three so he gave them each one dollar and kept two for himself.  So each of the men paid $9 dollars or a total of $27 and the bellhop has $2 for a total of $29 - what happened to the missing dollar?</p>

<p>Now give Dan some time.</p>]]></description>
<author>Kush</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697163</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:20:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by el ganador</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@23: some kind of magic tax? This is what happens when Democrats control Congres....</p>]]></description>
<author>el ganador</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697165</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:24:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by so it goes</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@20:</p>

<p>Grab a calculator.</p>

<p>1. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)</p>

<p>2. Multiply by LXXX</p>

<p>3. Add I</p>

<p>4. Multiply by CCL</p>

<p>5. Add the last IV digits of your phone number</p>

<p>6. Add the last IV digits of your phone number again</p>

<p>7. Subtract CCL</p>

<p>8. Divide by II</p>

<p>Recognize the answer?</p>]]></description>
<author>so it goes</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697166</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:24:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by JME</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@15: My math’s rusty, but this version including the area code should work…</p>

<p>1. Key in your area code</p>

<p>2. Add your area code again</p>

<p>3. Multiply by 500</p>

<p>4. Add the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)</p>

<p>5. Multiply by 80</p>

<p>6. Add 1</p>

<p>7. Multiply by 250</p>

<p>8. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number</p>

<p>9. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again</p>

<p>10. Subtract 250</p>

<p>11. Divide by 2<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>JME</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697176</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:33:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>where exactly is this $25 room?  i'd le the bellhop keep the $2 for that price.  i mean, have you seen rental rates lately?</p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697183</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:35:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bill LaBorde</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm just impressed that really smart people have as much time to waste as I do reading this blog and all the comments.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Bill LaBorde</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697385</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:53:45 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by glasspusher</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I know the missing dollar answer. Is Dan stoned yet?<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>glasspusher</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697667</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697667</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:15:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Lisa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>All math tricks are purdy much the same.  Not impressive.</p>]]></description>
<author>Lisa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697802</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 05:09:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dan Savage</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I give up. Someone explain the hotel thing to me. I always use Priceline, so I never get refunds -- is that why I can't work this out?</p>]]></description>
<author>Dan Savage</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697850</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:39:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Aexia</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The hotel riddle basically screws your head by purposely mixing up information. There's no missing dollar. The bellhop's $2 comes out of the $27 total that was paid.</p>

<p>From the businessmen's perspective, they paid the hotel $10 each and each received a $1 back. So the hotel got $27 and they have the remaining $3. (3x9)+(3x1)=27+3=30</p>

<p>From the bellboy's perspective, the hotel got $25, he skimmed $2 and the remaining $3 went to the business men. 25+2+3=30</p>]]></description>
<author>Aexia</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c697956</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:03:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Ashley</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I dont get it?</p>]]></description>
<author>Ashley</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/04/420_brain_teaser#c704335</link>
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