In November, it must be YES/YES.

I'll just pop open a beer and have a laugh.

Pathetic! If they care what people think run a poll - if they don't, then just say so and do it.

Surface does not equal cars are icky, m'kay?

The viaduct proposal also included replacing the seawall.

How would AWB be connected to Aurora?

The winner of Round 2: Retrofit

Did anyone talk about keeping the extra $1-2 billion on ice for the next five years? Unless they agree to that, a Round 3 is unlikely anytime soon.

This is the Get My Ass Re-Elected Option.

The electeds' idea of collaboration is to meet together in camera, with the people kept out in the cold, oblivious to all, with deals cut behind closed doors? Sorry, if this is collaboration, I want no part of it.

Fnarf: Sorry, should've posted the cross-section, which shows the proposed noise wall along the shore side of the road. Still room for a nice pedestrian friendly one-way frontage road and bike path.

Further, the pedestrian bridges can widen and slope very gently down to Western, since the streets not connecting to the boulevard can be closed. A nice easy walk from the relocated streetcar to the piers.

In sum, quite a bit different from Aurora.

Second, I have a sneaking suspicion that we're going to end up with a freeway anyway, ala the monorail where we just keep voting until the freeway people get the results that they want.

I do agree with Fnarf and him, however, that the ped overpasses are bogus (not to mention ironic), and Fnarf makes the good point that Seattle with its precious waterfront should make more use of it by increasing ferry transportation. Like in NYC and Boston.

I do like that the street car runs down Western. That road can be as much of a driving short cut as it can be packed because of the pathetic 3-Way stop at Victor Steinbreuk Park. So nuke that and put a street car in; that makes a lot of sense. Both citizens and tourists could use it in-city. Make it one with Allen's Choo-Choo-Charlie train in South Lake Union and it's even better.

You're proposing opening up the waterfront by building a 20-foot wall along it?

Nice.

*Ensure public safety. *Ensure capacity and mobility. *And ensure fiscal responsibility.

However, I'm basically proposing an extension of the street grid over the boulevard. Gentle block long slope & full street width on the city side, planters screening traffic noise over the boulevard, and wide staircases down to the promenade.

Basically, the aim is to the lay the groundwork for a full lid, and putting the dick in a box, so to speak.

And I agree the suspension bridge is a dumb idea. If all you want is a downtown bypass, please consult my rebuild remix

1. Tunnel is dead - stone cold.

2. People want a heck of a lot more transit no matter what happens.

P.S.: Parking on Paris boulevards is mostly in the center and not a lot of it, either.

Otherwise, your statement makes no sense.

Where did you get this idea? Maybe from the same people trying to sell a tunnel?