Slog - Comments on The Morning News http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148 Four Gore Years: The Iraq War turns four today. Yes, I feel terrible. Patience is a Virtue: Condoleeza Rice thinks Americans need a bit more of it, urges us to be "patient" about Iraq. "Zip It." Asked if the President had a "plan for success" in Iraq, White House press secretary tells reporter to shut his mouth. Whiners and Ingrates: Iraqis are pretty depressed about the state of their country, what with the bombs, the killings, the reprisal killings, the holes drilled in skulls, etc. Shall we should send Tony Snow over to tell them to zip it? Or shall... Copyright 2008 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:37:14 -0800 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:04:51 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Gabriel Davies just lip-syncs? Laaaaame.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673880 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673880 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:46:21 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Dan, in case you didn't see this yesterday, here's Garrison Keillor's response. I'm curious to hear your response in turn. I think it's pretty awful that he received so much hate-mail as a result of your brief-lived campaign, which was based on nothing more than misunderstanding and perhaps a weak attempt at satire.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673882 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673882 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:57:17 -0800 Comment by konstantconsumer that patience bullshit really pisses me off. yeah, my sister will practice a shit ton of patience will her husband is over there, against his will, risking his life daily.

thanks, condi.

]]> konstantconsumer http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673888 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673888 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:20:13 -0800 Comment by lunch money In the Condoleeza article it states:
"A day before in Baghdad, insurgents disguised as mechanics slipped into car repair shops..."

CNN has in turn reported "recent suspicious activity" in the hiring of US school bus drivers.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/16/school.bus.extremists.ap/index.html?eref=rss_us

]]> lunch money http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673889 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673889 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:21:26 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Mark Krikorian just posted this at The Corner (NRO), under the title "Gay Rights Don't Stop at the Rio Grande":
Mexico City's new homosexual civil union law went into effect Friday. My point is not to debate the substance of the issue, but rather to point out that Mexicans are not a people of our imagination, living as we imagine our sainted ancestors did in the shtetls of the old country, but rather real people living through all the moral and social changes of modernity. (As another example, about one-third of babies now born in Mexico are illegitimate.) This sounds obvious, but too many supporters of mass immigration (including the president) behave as though Mexican (and other) immigrants are somehow different or better than we are, and can solve for us the cultural challenges we face in a modern society.

Unpacking that: conservatives have been hoping that Latin American immigration would bring about a rightward shift on such issues. Krikorian laments that Mexican aren't "better than us" - they support gay marriage! In other words, too bad that Mexicans aren't the saintly homophobes of our romantic imaginations, coming to save America from queers.

Ugh.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673890 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673890 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:28:13 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Re "whiners and ingrates": there was an interview in the Guardian today with the Iraqi man who took a sledge-hammer to Saddam's statue after the invasion, and led the crowd in pulling it down. He says that he now regrets doing so, and that life was better under Saddam. This was a man who was tortured at Abu Graib by Uday Hussein.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673899 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673899 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:45:24 -0800 Comment by Gabriel Here's that link.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673938 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673938 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:54:23 -0800 Comment by Andrew Apparently we have hit the point of taking everything out of context on everything anyone says about anything. Coupled with people who just do more knee jerking than thinking is really doing a fine job at making life a fucking nightmare. Thanks for everyone taking up the modus operati from Fox News. (Dan Savage and Garrison fiasco)

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673945 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673945 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:07:27 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @8,

Hey, not everyone did. There were plenty of people, who were actually familiar with Keillor's work, who knew he wasn't trying to be serious with that article.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673951 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673951 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:19:19 -0800 Comment by haha Gabriel-have a sense of humour! Did you catch Elaine hosting SNL? Funny woman!
I always laugh my head off if I see that episode when Jerry tells her that "War and Peace" was originally titled "War, What Is It Good For, Absolutely Nothing, Say It Again."

C'mon, War is good for a few chuckles. Lighten up.

]]> haha http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673952 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673952 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:20:07 -0800 Comment by monkey Check out Americablog (in the slog favorite list). Two lesbians got kicked out of an IHOP in Kansas for kissing each other.

Cinnasation french toast... I'll miss you.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673957 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673957 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:34:09 -0800 Comment by Tiz re: elderly drivers.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but statistics don't prove causation. Maybe the reason more elderly drivers die in intersections is because they aren't on the highways.

I hate psuedo-news and scare tactics!

]]> Tiz http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673962 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673962 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:40:47 -0800 Comment by Mark The average American will not suffer when the US pulls out of Iraq. Remember that in 1962 the US lost at the Bay of Pigs, the US lost in Vietnam in 1975 and when the U.S. government looses in Iraq it will be no skin off the nose of the American people. All empires loose a war now and then. Get over it.

]]> Mark http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673966 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673966 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:47:57 -0800 Comment by ellarosa that's a good point, tiz. that's exactly the kind of thing the freakonimics author is always pointing out. how would you structure a better statistical model, tho...

]]> ellarosa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673970 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673970 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:55:35 -0800 Comment by help me rhombus Yet another smelly lefty protest. I didn't hear, did they finally free Leonard Peltier and convince Isreal to stop defending itself?

]]> help me rhombus http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673982 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673982 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:08:37 -0800 Comment by Andrew Great, FUCKING STOP THE DAMN PROTESTING! First you are doing it in SEATTLE!!! Go protest in a red city like Bellevue or Redmond already! We all get it! And because WE get it, WE do not have to have our bus routes all screwed up.

Talk about preaching to the chior, go preach to the congergation in Eastern Washington already!

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673990 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c673990 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:20:32 -0800 Comment by Oliver I do not know if Mr. Peltier has been released yet. Yesterday's rally had folks who support Isreal as well as supporters of Palestine. If the government had listened to the protests before the war we would not be in this mess. The anti war movement was 100% on the money about what would happen. The Bush adminstration has been proven to be liars about what they said.
I did not notice any partucular oder at the protest. Perhaps that smell was from the 600,000 dead citizens of Iraq and the over 3000 U.S. soldiers killed in the past four years
Check out the polls there, post #15
like it or not the antiwar movement now speaks for more Americans than Bush.

]]> Oliver http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674001 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674001 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:28:11 -0800 Comment by help me rhombus Um, That isn't an anti-war movement or a movement of any kind. It's a collection of various low-lifes and pathologically anti-authoritarian children. Why is it that even after "taking back the Senate" you can't get them to do what you want? What do they know that you don't?

]]> help me rhombus http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674015 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674015 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:45:57 -0800 Comment by Thomas I think the lowest form of low life is what now sits in the White House.

]]> Thomas http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674059 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674059 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:31:08 -0800 Comment by Andrew @19

Actually the lowest form of life are scattered around the country: People who voted for and still support the President.

But after further consideration I think we should just admit this "Deomcratic Republic" that started in the 18th Century simply does not work. I propose we re- patriate ourselves back to England and reestablish the divine right of Kings (and Queens). All of the representative democracies must put back into power anyone alive from past monarchies and if they did not have a monarchy they need to pick someone and start one up.

There are simply to many STUPID STUPID people who have acted to STUPID to be trusted with voting.

The experiment has failed: Ken Brokway said it best "Democracy simply doen't work"

GOD SAVE QUEEN ELIZABETH II!!! Long may she reign as our absolute ruler!!!

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674074 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674074 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:48:52 -0800 Comment by help me rhombus Don't you DARE go back to England. We need you here to derail the Dems in 08 with your ineffectual dorm room Che-blowing bullshit.

]]> help me rhombus http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674097 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674097 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:03:27 -0800 Comment by Tiz Andrew @20: is that the same Queen Elizabeth with the nice rack?

ellarosa @14: I dunno. I haven't taken statistics. I just like to occasionally bitch without a solution of my own.

]]> Tiz http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674105 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674105 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:09:17 -0800 Comment by fourway Unsafe...

Shouldn't that be unsafe at any age?

"...The most common reason among youngest drivers was rear-ending another car... younger drivers are impatient and distracted.

And stoned?

]]> fourway http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674109 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674109 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:11:36 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi I hate that experts are proposing more roundabouts instead of signal intersections. One thing I've learned in this city, is that no one slows down or stops at roundabouts. They may be safer for elderly drivers, but there's no way they're safer for pedestrians or bicyclists.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674330 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_morning_news_148#c674330 News Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:04:51 -0800