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<description>A comment posted by Ben on my post Reality-effects, made this point: Charles, forgive me, but if reality effects are the effects our actions (physical and mental) have on reality, AND if all human experience is mediated, then we can&apos;t actually get at the reality effects any more than we can get at the rest of reality. Our access to the reality effects would be mediated like our access to the rest of reality. Why would we have special non-mediated access to just this part of reality? If you grant that we don&apos;t, then what&apos;s the big deal with reality-effects...</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:02:37 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the problem is that you currently reside in Hades and what you perceive to be real is being misinterpreted by both your mind and your optic nerves as being real.</p>

<p>But it's all an illusion.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c670729</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:22:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by M</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Humans amount to a single species, this is a fact; that we contine to behave as competitive individuals rather than a collective organism is a reality effect.</p>]]></description>
<author>M</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c670794</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 16:12:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ben</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>pff... read some real philosophy.</p>]]></description>
<author>ben</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c670878</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:34:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by -B-</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There is only one reality we are always in it. The rest is Fantasy we create to distract us from the fact that there is only one reality and all that fantasy creating is part of it.<br />
To think there is other realities is just a fantasy designed by people that can't or do not deal well with the one single reality we live in. There is no Heaven or Hell, middle earth, after life that is cool... That is all fantasy all there is is what you see and feel when you look around you each day no mater where you go and when you die you break down physically into food for other organisms which are also part of this one reality.</p>]]></description>
<author>-B-</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c670975</link>
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<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:19:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Ben</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Charles, thanks for the follow-up! This is the Ben from the previous post, not to be confused with the ben above in these comments who suggests that you go read some real philosophy. I appreciate your expanding on your previous remarks on reality and reality-effects, though I must admit I find the distinction between reality as human-independent and truth as human-dependent a rather odd place to build on. If there is a George Bush in the world, then it is true that there is George Bush in the world. This is just the Tarski equivalence, pretty modest stuff. </p>

<p>All the same, thanks for expanding.</p>

<p></p>

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<author>Ben</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c671023</link>
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<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:51:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Billy Sauce</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I confess that I'm a little confused as well by the clarification, not so much that it was a bad clarification, but that I am easily confused.</p>

<p>One possiblity for this confusion is that, in spite of everything, the design that Mudede has created is indeed only something that has been created, that is to say: fabricated.</p>

<p>Nevertheless, at the same time it does illuminate the human condition rather clearly, even if this illumination is only a provisional one. And what is this thankfully provisional human condition we are a part of? It is the one in which we are in control of the demonic fields of fiction-writing. Witholding truth, witholding meaning, so that the apparatus, in the end, will have thankfully derailed reality.</p>]]></description>
<author>Billy Sauce</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/the_clarification#c672116</link>
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<category>Life</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:04:54 -0800</pubDate>
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