Slog News & Arts

Line Out

Music & Nightlife

« Slow News Day | “While we all hope that our te... »

Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Simulacra and Simulation

posted by on March 7 at 20:44 PM

Jean Baudrillard is dead at 77.
jean-baudrillard-782361.jpg
His death did not take place.

RSS icon Comments

1

Oh, what an original joke

Posted by blaire | March 7, 2007 9:37 PM
2

Indeed, he didn't die. He just stopped breathing and turned cold and began to let his flesh rot, and society called it death. True death has ceased to exist.

Posted by tsm | March 7, 2007 10:11 PM
3

semioticians....is he an icon, or a symbol?

Posted by matt | March 7, 2007 10:11 PM
4

From our perspective today, it's pretty obvious that the Gulf War really didn't happen. That book seems almost common sense today rather than anything particularly post-structuralist.

In fact I don't think one could do much better than read Baudrillard's book (or it's serialized version in Libo (trans in the Gaurdian) to really get yourself in a mindset to really understand the level of insanity governing the current Iraq debacle.

Some bits and pieces from Libo:
http://www.liberation.fr/actualite/evenement/evenement2/239266.FR.php

And libo's obit:
http://www.liberation.fr/culture/239275.FR.php

Posted by kinaidos | March 7, 2007 10:14 PM
5

This joke is already old.

Posted by Jennifer | March 7, 2007 10:16 PM
6

Merde. Et encore un fois: Merde.

Posted by treacle | March 8, 2007 12:20 AM
7

This is too hyperreal!!

Posted by SORG! | March 8, 2007 12:47 AM
8

This is too hyperreal!!

Posted by SORG! | March 8, 2007 12:47 AM
9

This joke is never old for a college student. It helps to connect with others who have trudged through Baudrillard, Delillo, and on and on and on. The joke sustains because of how much we simultaneously love and hate them.

Posted by moral_skeptic | March 8, 2007 7:27 AM
10

Uh, this joke was also the lede and headline for the Guardian's obit yesterday.

http://books.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,,2028890,00.html

Posted by bill | March 8, 2007 7:40 AM
11

people, it's the "bird lives" of our generation. get used to it.

Posted by charles mudede | March 8, 2007 8:09 AM
12

i agree with jennifer. this is tuesday's news. i wore black yesterday.

Posted by josh | March 8, 2007 8:37 AM
13

I so enjoyed his writings (especially System of Objects). Sad to see him go...

Posted by Vin | March 8, 2007 9:24 AM
14

Not that his death "did not happen" or "did not occur," but "did not take place." His death did not take place.

Have we really understood the phrase, "did not take place?" No. The answer must me in the affirmative. His death did not arrive. It did not come. His death did not beckon.

What then is the subject of "did not take place" is not the man, Jean Baudrillard, but death. The subject is death. His death did not come for him. He did not meet death, and yet he said to be "dead."

But the question here is not whether we believe he is dead, but why would we think of death as an absence, a "did not take place?" And how is it possible for one to die if death is nothing? This is the paradox and the purpose of much of Jean's writing, for only in language is it possible for a living thing to cease to exist.

Death is in the supermarket of language.

Posted by Billy | March 8, 2007 11:18 AM
15

billy, thanks for correctly reading my choice of words. the real comment is not the joke but the wording.

Posted by charles mudede | March 8, 2007 2:48 PM

Comments Closed

In order to combat spam, we are no longer accepting comments on this post (or any post more than 14 days old).