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That nickname is more telling of its creator than it is of Mrs. Cantwell.

The whole thing makes Mr. Seely sound like a baby. A difficult, irrational boss? Ka-razy! (We had a CEO of a small-but-successful company in here the other day bitching that there was no diet Red Bull amongst the morning meeting coffee and tea spread. These idiots are Par for the course.)

I don't even know if staff turnover is a great indicator anyhow - we usually don't know why people quit their jobs. Maybe working for her totally and absolutely sucks, or it could just be they hire the wrong people.

And when time comes for Mr. Seely to look for a new job - I mean, c'mon, how long do people stay at the Weekly? - that little whine-fest he published on his former employer is going to look great on his resume.

Especially when the joke on her name writes itself:
"How does she do her job?"
"She can't, well."

I'm just sayin'.

I wish the whole idea that a candidate is qualified on the basis of how much you imagine you'd enjoy having a beer with them would just go away and die. Nobody ever implies that Winston Churchill wasn't a good leader because he was abrasive and really, really bossy.

Sadly, with Hillary's candidacy I'm sure we can look forward to two years of this sort of name-calling. jesus.

C'mon! What else are you gonna call someone with the name Cantwell? It begs to be bastardized into Cuntwell.

Will she be played by Meryl Streep in the movie?

Yeah, but while Winston Churchill may have been an SOB, it would have been totally awsome to have had a beer (or more likey a scotch) with him. Can't, well/Cuntwell is no Churchill, not by a long shot. Not as a politician, a leader, a personality, or a person. To compare them is laughable. When you have Churchill's stature, you also have earned certain privileges that you don't have if your a housewife who buys a Senate seat.

Hate to break it to you, Erica, but every workplace in the land is full of guys that create dumb sexist nicknames for their coworkers. It's not really a major news story, but you can still give yourself a medal if you want to.

@5
"Youre" an idiot.

Is there an editor in the house?

Quoting an anonymous source to nail someone at a rival publication is really pretty lame.

The Muni League's going to get some fleas from climbing into bed with this dog.

"if your a housewife who buys a Senate seat."

WTF? "Vice president of marketing for Real Networks" = "housewife"?

What's Erica's middle name? Just curious...

I hope it's Carol.

Amusingly, we never hear jokes about guys who do exactly the same thing.

Misogyny, thy name is DC.

I much prefer politicians who are bitchy, that is more concerned with getting shit done than making people feel good about themselves. Fuck that shit. How many successful politicians waste their time coddling their staff?

Of course, YOU, Erica, you'd never do a thing like that, would you? You know, riff on someone's name? No, not you.

http://www.thestranger.com/blog/2007/01/sittstorm

You're hell-bent on working for the stranger for the rest of your life, aren't you? Wow, $32K a year and no drug-testing! How posh

had it not been for the two of you pointing fingers at the weekly, I would have read their article as a defense Cantwell.

@9 Housewife trumps Vice president of marketing for anything. (What the hell do you have against housewives?) The only part of any large company that is more BS than Marketing is Sales. If you have ever worked for a large company, you know that.

To No. 12 - ever hear the word prick?

And as for cunt,Erica, run the name in the Stranger's search box, great reporter of rumor that you are. It appears to be the Stranger's pet word instead.

Brad: It's not the use of the word, but the usage (woman=inherently bad; cunt=inherently insulting) that I object to.

It's not the use of the word, it's the usage of the word? Que?

And when you call someone a cunt, this means women are inherently bad? So what does it mean when a man is called a prick, an asshole, a dick, etc? Wait--that middle one applies to both genders! So if use the term "asshole" I must hate all of humanity!

t: Use=The fact that a word is used. Usage=the use of a word as an insult.And the use of cunt as an insult begins from the premise that women are inherently bad,and thus "cunt" is a major insult (and totally different, btw, than "prick" or asshole"), not the other way around.

@15,

Exactly.

Seely assigned the story and well, the reporter couldn't quite get it. Probably cuz it's not much of a story. Which is exactly why I brought up the Baird stuff.

Basically: Seely is hung up on this one story idea based on his cutting edge analysis that Sen. Cantwell is a bitch. And he forced it on his new reporter, and it went nowhere. So, she did this meaningless story about... um... well, I don't know what it's about. Cantwell's a bitch/she isn't a bitch.

"Vice President of Marketing" is far ruder insult than "cunt". Even I've been called a cunt before, many times. But call me "VP Marketing" and you'll be picking your teeth up out of the gutter.

Fnarf: We agree on something! (Must be Friday)

Also, Senator Cantwell is no one's wife.

She helped start Real Networks so I believe she was more than just a cog in the marketing department.

She's no Churchill, but she's definitely earned her stripes. She's been a politician since she was 28 years old (interrupted by a stint as a corporate executive of a successful company). She must be doing something right.

I doubt she's sitting at home worried about name-calling.

I'm just happy we finally figured out with the C in Erica C. Barnett stands for

Okay, I (and poster No. 1) gave her more credit than we should have.

She's not a house wife, she's an old maid.

(She must really be a cunt if she can't find a man to marry her.)

Patty Murray doesn't think she's a bitch.

For some reason unknown to me and many others, Patty Murray considers her one of her best friends.

She obviously sees something that we don't.

barnett, i'm usually on board with you, but come on--it's like making fun of cheney for being a dick. genitals aren't compliments in our society, regardless of the sex. perhaps seely is driven by sexism, and the name-calling is childish, but it's not inherently sexist. also, prick=penis, erica.

Let's see, who's side should I pick, the dickhead frat boy or the negative prude?

I choose Fnarf.

YGBKM:

I'll raise eric's "idiot" and call you a "complete idiot".

Marketing and Sales may be BS in SOME large companies, but for those with actual products to sell they're two of the most important aspects of the operation, apart from fabrication of rhe product itself.

You can make a brilliant product, but if you don't have marketers letting potential purchasers know it exists, and people out in the field selling, you got nothing but a brilliant product that nobody knows about, and that nobody buys. The idea that a good product "sells itself" is both naive and ludicrous.

Certainly, marketing and sales can frequently convince people to buy a piece-of-crap product as well; the difference being that at some point customers will catch on and stop buying it.

Yawn. More potshots at the Weekly, this time via an anonymous source. Gutsy, hard-nosed journalism.

Having dealt with Cantwell's press staff in 2000, including Seely then and since, never have I heard him use the term in question. Nor did any other media person employed before or after the election.
Quite the contrary, even under the worst pressure, respect was present even when affection was not. Maria works harder than anyone in her employ, and it is impossible not to acknowledge that fact.
The Stranger is capable of some first-rate reporting. Unfortunately, it can also be inaccurate and capable of pursuing feuds with whole-cloth inventions.
Dan, the snowboarding season is nearly over. It might be time to concentrate on controlling the behavior of your other kids.

Would that be the same former SW/Stranger writer that was a spy at the Seattle Weekly... just saying you shouldn't be one to judge.

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