Slog - Comments on It's Not Porn 'Cause It's In A Family Newspaper! http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp Today's P-I has a loving slideshow (22--!!!--photos!) devoted to the "preliminary competition photos" from this year's Miss USA pageant, including several pornarrific shots of identical white beauty-queen hopefuls in identical white string bikinis (see? it's egalitarian!): According to the Miss USA web site (apparently "Miss America" is out of vogue?), previous Miss USAs (like coke-snorting faux-lesbian Tara Conner?) have exemplified the "savvy, goal-oriented and aware" modern woman. In fact, Miss USAs "display those characteristics in their everyday lives, both as individuals, who compete with hope of advancing their careers, personal and humanitarian goals, and as women who see [sic] to... Copyright 2008 Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:34:07 -0800 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:35:38 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by rorry likes anuses as a queer man - this looks like some good stuff

the one with the bikini bottom hung off her hips is very hot

oh, Erica, what can I do to stay gay, pass this on to Dan

]]> rorry likes anuses http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674588 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674588 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:54:09 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 these do seem quite hetero-normative, not a mullet in the lot of them

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674590 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674590 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:55:40 -0800 Comment by Go Tara
There's nothing wrong with Tara Connor or any of these girls. They're just regular girls in their late teens and early twenties who are competing in a contest. So it's not something cool like sports or drama or whatever, but it's a contest like anything else. Leave'em alone.

]]> Go Tara http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674599 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674599 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:10:33 -0800 Comment by Jensen Interceptor ECB Wrote:
"And don’t worry: I’m working on a big, wonked-out viaduct feature."

Yes, but hopefully you stayed up to
watch the Formula One Australian Grand
Prix held in Melbourne's Albert Park last Sunday. A brillant third place
showing by rookie, Lewis Hamilton.
Stirling Moss was quoted as saying Hamilton is a "racer" and not a "driver". High praise, indeed, from the the former world champion.

Malaysia's Sepang circut is next. Hopefully you'll be watching and
reporting, Erica.

---Jensen

]]> Jensen Interceptor http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674618 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674618 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:29:58 -0800 Comment by pageantfan Miss America is the terminal title in the Miss America Pageant. Miss USA feeds Miss Universe (read Miss Human Earthling) and is owned by arbiter-of-beauty Donald Trump. Slick reporting.

]]> pageantfan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674630 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674630 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:49:09 -0800 Comment by james Mmmmm!
Kelly George from Sherwood, Arkansas.
I "sure would" like to put my "arcin' saw" in her!

]]> james http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674632 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674632 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:00:13 -0800 Comment by whassup ECB writes, "shots of identical white [wrong] beauty-queen hopefuls in identical white string bikinis [stating the obvious].

Sounds like you've got a snarky attitude towards the color white. Maybe contestants can wear bikinis matching their skin tone next time. That would be really pornariffic!

]]> whassup http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674653 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674653 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:22:37 -0800 Comment by also
Miss America is one thing (traditional scholarship pageant where the contestant has a platform, like fighting AIDS or feeding children or whatever) and Miss USA is another (an out-and-out sexy-beauty pageant owned by Trump.)

According to the website, "The Miss America Organization is the leading provider of scholarships for young women in the world. Each year, the organization makes available more than $40 million in cash and tuition scholarship assistance." Miss USA gets cash and prizes, but no scholarships.

So basically, Miss America is Mary Anne and Miss USA is Ginger.


]]> also http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674672 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674672 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:43:32 -0800 Comment by Amy Kate I've got to try to remeber to stand like that next time I'm in my bikini (and heels).

]]> Amy Kate http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674684 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674684 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:56:12 -0800 Comment by Interesting So Erica,

Would you feel better if the contestants freelnaced as hookers and advertised in the back of your publication?

Or even better, the could be tricked into the Seattle area from China, Korea, etc.... Forced into prostitution, locked up at the end of the day and promoted for sale in the back of your publication.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/305006_brothel24.html

So what percentage of those profits paid your salary?

Personally, I'd get off the "women's rights" soapbox and look a little closer at how you make your own money.

]]> Interesting http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674699 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674699 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:25:13 -0800 Comment by ellarosa @5 "...miss universe (read miss human earthling)" lol.

]]> ellarosa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674711 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674711 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:03:04 -0800 Comment by Meow :) Amy Kate-
If your going for that sort of look, try this pose.

]]> Meow :) http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674721 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674721 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:09:32 -0800 Comment by vooodooo84 @10 it seems to me the issue is not that The Stranger is anti-porn, or anti-sex work, it just dislikes the sex-negative dailies hypocrisy on the issue.

]]> vooodooo84 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674735 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674735 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:21:14 -0800 Comment by Interesting Voodddooo,

The Dailies Hypocracy?

Give me a break.

ECB presents herself as a femi-nazi and receives her paycheck from a publication who has acted as a front for a white slavery organization.

]]> Interesting http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674754 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:54:46 -0800 Comment by whocares Of all the things you can find to criticize the mainstream Seattle press for, *this* is what you come up with? Who cares?

]]> whocares http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674755 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674755 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:55:29 -0800 Comment by Sean Meow #12:

Didn't know the Mistresse had her own blog. Thanks for the link!

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674756 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674756 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:56:33 -0800 Comment by Tiz Accepting advertisements is not the same as "acting as a front".

]]> Tiz http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674767 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674767 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:06:02 -0800 Comment by Sean Erica - if you're going to write about sexual politics, you ought to let your audience know your own personal angle in the bedroom. Are you gay or straight? How many people have you bagged? Any experiences, anecdotes, or relationships that have shaped your politics? What turns you on? Where do you draw the line?

Self-disclosure makes sex columnists like Dan Savage and Mistresse Matisse compelling. Without knowing your story, we have no reason to take you seriously.

]]> Sean http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674775 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674775 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:12:08 -0800 Comment by ellarosa one more good point from tiz. and how outdated are you to refer to the kind of sex work advertised in the weeklies as "white slavery." yes, ws exists, and is evil, but that's NOT what you're seeing at the back of the paper. geez.

]]> ellarosa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674781 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674781 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:16:43 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Remember, it's not a beauty pageant, it's a "scholarship contest".

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674841 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674841 Media Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:39:02 -0800 Comment by K Miss USA and Miss America are two different things. You've been duped. FTL.

]]> K http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674866 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674866 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:03:39 -0800 Comment by Grunfral taking ads from the whore house mafia system - profits from misery - the Stranger and the Weekly - well, well, well

bet the whore masters got frequency discounts

of course it is just business so Tim and Dan can buy condos in the upcoming TRUMP TOWER condos - the new Seattle

so Erica, ads for white slavery and mafia network run whore houses, what say?

now getting to real feminism, the true explo
ation of masses of women worldwide

]]> Grunfral http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674956 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:55:14 -0800 Comment by Interesting Ellerosa...

Go back and read the article linked in post #10.

There's a big difference in willingly be a sex worker and being a forced sex slave.

On that note, Gunrals post addressing femisniism.

Recently Queen Rania of Jordan asked, "what are you doing to propel women in your community?"

It would appear that ECB can't honestly answer that question.

Oh and Tiz... Yes, accepting ad dollars for forced sex slavery
is acting as a front. Being involved in this and never mentioneing it to your readers just hsows what hypocrites staff at The Stranger actually are.

There is such a thing as editorial integrity and this is an Issue that the Stranger has always turned their back to.

The brothels in question advertised in two weekly publications, that's it. So each time one of those girls had to ebdure their experience, there was a 50/50 chance that one of the Strangers readers was involved.


The reason that the brothels did not advertise in the daily papaers is that the dailies won't accept these ad dollars.

]]> Interesting http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674968 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c674968 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:39:38 -0800 Comment by Whatevs Is Knight-Ridder locally owned a family paper? Gee, I never new Tony lived in Seattle. Thanks Erica!

]]> Whatevs http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675220 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675220 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:09:06 -0800 Comment by Sam For some reason, while I respect Erica's feminism very much, every time I read one of these all I can think of are snarky comments to make like "I'd totally bang them," or "got look at those titties."

But it's totally true - I would bang them.

]]> Sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675301 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675301 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:02:57 -0800 Comment by Girl Power 'I’m working on a big, wonked-out viaduct feature.'

I think she's coined a new phrase for masturbation.

]]> Girl Power http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675343 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675343 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:34:22 -0800 Comment by hilda these photos are a fine example of Lesbian eye candy

bang them, hell, to be honest, just good old pussy eating, for days and days

what a crop of lovely ladies

]]> hilda http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675347 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675347 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:36:09 -0800 Comment by ECB Hello trolls:

1) By "family newspaper" I mean a newspaper for families, not locally owned by a family.

2) I have no idea how much the Stranger makes from escort ads, but at any rate, we don't pretend they're wholesome fun for the whole family.

3) "White slavery"? I'm sorry, what century are you living in?

]]> ECB http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675400 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675400 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:24:40 -0800 Comment by ECB oh, and Sean? I'm not a sex columnist. I'm not going to disclose anything about my sex life because it's none of your (or anybody's) goddamn business.

]]> ECB http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675419 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675419 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:41:35 -0800 Comment by S As a person with eyes and a pulse, I have to say: that's hot!

]]> S http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675432 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675432 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:52:00 -0800 Comment by him "identical white beauty queen hopefuls"? What? The woman on the right looks to me to have Asian features.

]]> him http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675437 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675437 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:56:13 -0800 Comment by whassup @31
Thanks for picking up on that. I tried to point it out with comment #7.
I think there are also two black conestants.

Erica seemed to have gotten giddy with the 'identical white' repetition and therefore fudged the facts.

The implication is:
Identical White
Identical White
Identical White...

like the women are Mistress Stormtroopers blindly marching - albeit hotties.
(see? it's egalitarian)

]]> whassup http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675498 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675498 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:41:43 -0800 Comment by ellarosa @23 i stand corrected. i assumed the slave trade types didn't want to be so high profile as to advertise in a widely distributed paper, and i was wrong. but are not the overwhelming majority of sex ads in the stranger for willing workers? i agree that the paper should make efforts to accept ads only from the latter. erica shows her bias here, which i don't completely share, but her assumption (which was also mine) that she is not profitting from sex slavery does not make her a hypocrite, only naive, like me.

]]> ellarosa http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675615 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/03/its_not_porn_cause_its_in_a_family_newsp#c675615 Media Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:35:38 -0800