Slog - Comments on Box Me In

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:31:50 -0800

How come you never show pics of the new homes that are just up the street from the Rain City Video in Fremont - box plus big windows.

Call me when you leave the Hill, ok?

Comment by MvB

MvB — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:33:46 -0800

I like the one that looks like a machine gun bunker from the side. Very urban!

Comment by MvB

MvB — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:34:17 -0800

I like the one that looks like a machine gun bunker from the side. Very urban!

Comment by alto

alto — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:00 -0800

aah, i see you think actual architecture means a pretty picture. nothing to do with space or design

Comment by monkey

monkey — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:37:34 -0800

I'm a huge fan of the new pre-fab modern box houses.

Comment by gfish

gfish — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:39:28 -0800

...they're almost identical. Do you just like buildings better the farther away they are?

Comment by Archae Texture

Archae Texture — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:50:58 -0800

Ah, yes. "Real architecture" is easily identified by its willingness to sacrifice function at the altar of form. Case in point, the view from the balcony in these photos is obviously reduced by the walls placed on either side. Those extended walls are 'necessary' to the boxlike form of the home but not to its structural integrity; they also add unnecessary materials and block the view. Nice to look at, if that happens to be your taste, but I wouldn't want to own it.

Comment by Dougsf

Dougsf — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:17:50 -0800

Those Seattle ones are pretty cool I think. Not really a fair comparison though, as the Italian building's intention looks to be as a modern mansion, and the Seattle homes look pointed at the condo/loft market.

Comment by D Huygens

D Huygens — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:15 -0800

Your dislike of the local version has something to do with the garage, I'll wager.

Comment by Tiz

Tiz — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:24:45 -0800

The Italian one looks like a file cabinet when viewed from the side. Ew.

Comment by Carollani

Carollani — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:25:42 -0800

That's a beautiful home design, but it seems sorely out of place in the Italian countryside. I don't know, maybe the fact that it's an unexpected design is what makes it so striking though.

Comment by Aaro)))n Edge

Aaro)))n Edge — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:41:43 -0800

"the view from the balcony in these photos is obviously reduced by the walls placed on either side"

-- agreed, aside from that... i dig it though.

Comment by Jeff

Jeff — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:50:59 -0800

Reminds me of those hideous older, boxy houses scattered around the Eastside.

Comment by jimmy

jimmy — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:08:00 -0800

@7 - The view is blocked by the walls, yes, but that's the view both in and out. From straight on, the Italian house looks a bit like living on a stage, thus the extended side walls are most likely meant to block others' views directly into the space.

The seattle houses, on the other hand, have almost no windows. Even on the front there's very little connection without the outside world. What a depressing building.

Comment by diggum

diggum — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:58 -0800

Both examples have more design and thought than the crappy townhouses going up in the backyard of the house across the alley from me in Georgetown.

The BACKYARD. They are putting three 3-story townhouses 6 feet behind the existing house, on a single lot. ugh.

Comment by Red Wendy

Red Wendy — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:14:15 -0800

The design is definitely a step above the average new home but the innards are a bit chilly for my taste. I'd expect a receptionist to greet me everytime I walked through the door...that is if I could afford the $605,000 pricetag.

Comment by infrequent

infrequent — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:37:01 -0800

not a bad garage... okay, they do actuallyhave one space per unit. but i find these rather nice modern attempts. a step in the right direction if not a bit pricey.

Comment by Max Solomon

Max Solomon — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:18:57 -0800

they're better than the POS going up across the street from my house - which has 4 stories and an ELEVATOR.

and it blocks my friggin view of steven's pass.

the townhomes being wedged onto lots everywhere possible in seattle are dictated by 3 things:
1. the zoning allows it - L4 lots, not SF.
2. property laws dictate it - 'fee simple' townhomes (your lot runs from the ground to the sky) are much less risky than condos (units stacked over each other - lawsuit city)
3. fear - aesthetics indended to frighten as few people as possible; they may not LIKE the faux-craftsman detailing, but they can accept it.

garages for people.

Comment by Max Solomon

Max Solomon — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:21:21 -0800

and let me add:

the more townhomes-wedged-on-a-lot that developers put up, the more capital they have to repeat the process. it snowballs until we all decide to collapse the economy to stop everything decent & good in seattle from being destroyed.

Comment by brandon h

brandon h — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:51:54 -0800

I kinda like the sleek, clean, simple box shape, in concept anyway. I'd have to see the inside before I could say whether I really like it or not. I didn't care for the italian one, it does look like a bunker.

Plus, home's should be built in context, and while a snap shot of a ultra modern home might look cool at first, it really depends on where the house is located and what the surrounding environment is like. I don't know if a house like that would work as well in seattle as it would in say some european city, or San Francisco. What's the point of having skylights and atriums, for example, if it is raining all the time?

The picture is neat, but I'm not convinced I would ever buy a place like that, even if I could afford it. I guess I'm just skeptical.

Comment by dj girth

dj girth — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:17:33 -0800

I dunno, watching them go up for the past year or so didn't make me interested in them at all, as the construction looked pretty crappy. And at 600K? At 21st and Alder? Methinks it's time to sell my place a few blocks away.

Comment by cochise

cochise — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:26:03 -0800

Jimmy @14-

For Christ's sake, the fucking front windows open up like garage doors. How much more connected can you get? Can you do that to your windows?

Plus, the ones in back have green roofs (lawns, etc.).

You miserable fucks, let's see your designs.

Cochise.

PS: Charles, time to get a new camera.

Comment by truthseeker

truthseeker — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:47:39 -0800

I actually love the openness surrounding the Italian home.

I'm also a big fan of concrete, wood and glass as well as the general boxiness of the whole thing.

I'll take it, any day!

Comment by mirror

mirror — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:41:55 -0800

They all make me nervous. Look like targets for droogies out of A Clockwork Orange.

Comment by Robinev

Robinev — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:45:26 -0800

It's an unfair comparison. The "real architecture" is done for a suburban-style home where the bunker-house sits isolated on a relatively large lot. The Seattle houses (probably much cheaper than the similar Italian example) are placed into a dense urban fabric.

But, even then, the Seattle houses would look better if they, too, were carefully photographed at dusk on a clear day with all the interior lights blazing through un-curtained windows.

The Seattle houses are cheap knock-offs of an expensive one-off style of "real" architecture. Pretty good knockoffs, though, given all the tradoffs.

Comment by Slim

Slim — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:28:29 -0800

Hi Jim. You letter i received. Thanks! Photos is GREAT!!!!

Comment by Slim

Slim — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:59:13 -0800

Hi Jim. You letter i received. Thanks! Photos is GREAT!!!!