Slog - Comments on The Seattle Art "Scene" http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117 Art panties have become bunched on Artdish. My podcast last week with Anne Mathern and Chad Wentzel of Crawl Space ticked off M., founder of the now-defunct Visual Codec. In particular, she objected to Mathern and Wentzel's claim that there is no art "scene" in Seattle, and to my seeming endorsement of that claim in the description of the podcast, "Anne Mathern and Chad Wentzel on How Seattle Doesn't Have an Art Scene." In an email, M. wrote to me, i love your little corner of the web, but the title "How Seattle Doesn't Have an Art Scene" just made... Copyright 2008 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:20:26 -0800 Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:05:23 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by David in Wedgwood Seattle and "Art Scene" shouldn't even be in the same sentence.

Want proof?

Go to first Thursday in the middle of summer. At 8PM the fucking sidewalks roll up and the gallery doors lock. It's embarrassing and pathetic.

My wife and I have taken to weekend trips to LA to get our art fix.

]]> David in Wedgwood http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616503 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616503 Arts Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:48:14 -0800 Comment by Phuoc Ewe "It's embarrassing and pathetic.

My wife and I have taken to weekend trips to LA to get our art fix."

Oh, I know, David. What will the neighbors think when they get a load of our embarrassing art scene.

P.S. No doubt you're told this on a regular basis, but you are a complete douche.

]]> Phuoc Ewe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616583 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616583 Arts Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:10:56 -0800 Comment by David in Wedgwood Wow...apparently I've hit a little too close to home for you.

The truth hurts.

Your infantile response is simply validation of my original post.

]]> David in Wedgwood http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616615 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616615 Arts Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:37:41 -0800 Comment by m. go jen!!

i'm not sure about that last phrase involving k. cobain, though.

the mystics were reportedly pretty popular as well...

"conflicted relationship" or no, seattle is far from a one-hit-wonder.

xoxooxo,

flaming m.

]]> m. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616618 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616618 Arts Tue, 06 Feb 2007 19:46:57 -0800 Comment by Sarah Moon Seattle is working on having a scene of prank art by smirking frat boy geniuses who practice the art of being assholes. What was so smart or creative about the TAM antics? Please enlighten me, Jen!

]]> Sarah Moon http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616769 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c616769 Arts Tue, 06 Feb 2007 21:01:17 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle No Art Scene? Are you on drugs? I get like three invites to various large-scale arts events every DAY.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617064 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617064 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:46:15 -0800 Comment by sari jen graves, I adore your coverage. i'm not an art fan, but I find myself reading your posts and visiting galleries and forming opinions when I never gave a shit before. You're passionate and thorough and smart in your work and it's gotten me interested- thanks!

]]> sari http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617096 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617096 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:54:58 -0800 Comment by sari jen graves, I adore your coverage. i'm not an art fan, but I find myself reading your posts and visiting galleries and forming opinions when I never gave a shit before. You're passionate and thorough and smart in your work and it's gotten me interested- thanks!

]]> sari http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617098 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617098 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:55:18 -0800 Comment by chuckles Having reviewed the thread repeatedly and examined the interplay between reader responses and the original text, I have to agree with Phuoc, David you are a douche.


And Jen, you do a really great job. Like anyone who is into something, you get swept up now and then. But you have the chops and professionalism to make sense of it. Your combination of careless excitement about and genuine intellectual love of the field you work in make you, in my opinion, the finest contributer to this paper and certainly the finest accessible art critic in the city.

]]> chuckles http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617850 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617850 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:37:44 -0800 Comment by totorTu'm Not a religious person, but I can't get this line from the Gnostic according to Thomas out of my mind (this is probably why his was left out of the Bible):

"The kingdom of heaven is spread upon the earth, and people do not see it."

]]> totorTu'm http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617868 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617868 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:58:41 -0800 Comment by misty Brown Wow! When I listened to the podcast I kept rolling my eyes at how smug and arrogant those two were. I foolishly assumed that you interviewing them was an endorsement of their point of view. Way to keep your cards close in.

]]> misty Brown http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617877 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617877 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:12:20 -0800 Comment by eva After all these comments, now I GOTTA listen to the podcast!

]]> eva http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617953 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c617953 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:40:07 -0800 Comment by totorTu'm I find it hard to believe that it is Lundgren's contention that "fakers can do SBC works just as well." Such hubris is just not one of his traits. Can you confirm/deny this statement Jen?

One tiny, tinfoil tree, as 'funny, smart, and aggressive" as it is, is not tantamount to the SBC corpus.

I do appreciate the proposition of 'what if it is an SBC intervention' though. I hope that is Lundgren's intent--interrogating the reception of an SBC piece as opposed to interrogating SBC(?)

]]> totorTu'm http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618381 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618381 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:15:56 -0800 Comment by Carolyn Well it is very sweet to get a mention. One of my coworkers just ran in my office to tell me I was semi-famous today. For what it is worth it was nice to see. For me, personally trying to write a blog about the Seattle art world felt like I was the tree falling in the woods. Too much time spent for something not very fulfilling after awhile.
thanks again though!
Carolyn (dangerouschunky.com)

]]> Carolyn http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618567 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618567 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:53:55 -0800 Comment by Jen Graves Carolyn: Why not fulfilling?

]]> Jen Graves http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618644 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c618644 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:36:47 -0800 Comment by JB I for one appreciated your blog Carolyn. I don't blame you if you got burnt out. Must have taken alot of energy to keep up.

]]> JB http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c619012 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/02/post_117#c619012 Arts Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:05:23 -0800