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I didn’t know the Ray Nagin moonlighted at Tully’s. Let’s hope that works out better for him than his day job.

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | January 24, 2007 1:29 PM
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Oh please. Chocolate is totally associated with Valentine's Day. It makes perfect sense to make February chocolate month.

Posted by Matt from Denver | January 24, 2007 1:29 PM
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Since the tagline is "America's Favorite Substitute for Love," I suspect that Tully's is marketing off of Valentine's Day, not Black History Month.

Posted by keshmeshi | January 24, 2007 1:29 PM
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I like to call Chocolate Syrup "Santorum Sauce"

http://www.bigfatwhale.com/archives/bfw_284.html

Posted by Jake of 8bitjoystick.com | January 24, 2007 1:32 PM
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Every other month is still "Cracker Month."

Posted by flamingbanjo | January 24, 2007 1:33 PM
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Um, I don't doubt that Tully's was aiming to celebrate Valentine's Day, not belittle Black History Month--but that doesn't make the decision to run with "Chocolate Month" any less stupid.

Posted by David Schmader | January 24, 2007 1:33 PM
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i'm with #3.

sometimes chocolate is just chocolate.

Posted by kerri harrop | January 24, 2007 1:35 PM
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Well #3 one could read the tag line and think "Instead of love just have some chocolate, you know towards black America" In any case what a STUPID advertising stint. It is almost as dume as that 3:21 thing they pushed last year.

Posted by Andrew | January 24, 2007 1:40 PM
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Oh boy, are we about to revisit the whole racist mocha shake thingy from Dairy Queen from oh so long ago? Anyone else remember that?

Posted by longball | January 24, 2007 1:40 PM
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wasn't it a Mochalatto? lil help?

Posted by longball | January 24, 2007 1:41 PM
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It was a Moolatte.

I hate that I know that.

Posted by David Schmader | January 24, 2007 1:45 PM
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David, I disagree. Valentine's Day has been around a lot longer than Black History Month. Yes, it sucks that they picked that one instead of January (you know, MLK's birth month) but what can you do? Make it politically incorrect for any company to capitalize on chocolate's association with love?

Posted by Matt from Denver | January 24, 2007 1:45 PM
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I thought porn and masturbation were America's favorite substitutes for love...

Posted by Ryan | January 24, 2007 1:47 PM
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I love chocolate.

Posted by me | January 24, 2007 1:48 PM
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And the best comment award goes to....Ryan @ 13!!!!

Posted by Mike in MO | January 24, 2007 1:50 PM
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"Celebrating Chocolate Month"?!!! How can you people fail to howl with the unintended hilarity of it all?!

Posted by giantladysquirrels | January 24, 2007 1:51 PM
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i love porn and masturbation. if tully's or the black history people or both jointly want to work some of their chocolate love into my porn and masturbation, well then i'm all for it. but then let's call it "porn masturbation chocolate history month."

Posted by jameyb | January 24, 2007 1:57 PM
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Ryan @ 3 wins.

Posted by Callie | January 24, 2007 2:02 PM
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Good God! I am SO tired of everything being turned into a race/gender/age/height/blah/blah/blah issue. Seriously - could people just GET OVER themselves.
According to the calendar hanging in my kitchen - February is also the month for: Waitangi Day (NZ) 2/6, Lincoln's Birthday (US) & National Foundation Day (Japan) 2/12, Valentine's Day (US) 2/14, National Flag of Canada Day (CAN) 2/15, Chinese New Year (Hong Kong) 2/18, Family Day, Washington's Birthday, Presidents Day 2/19, Mardi Gras 2/20, Ash Wednesday 2/21. There you go - there are a few more opportunities for you to go forth and find more things to trumpet as offensive, evil doing out there.
Me, personally, I'm gonna buy some chocolate for my honey for Valentine's Day, which is celebrated in February, which also is the chosen month for Black History Month.

Posted by seriously | January 24, 2007 2:08 PM
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Good God! I am SO tired of everything being turned into a race/gender/age/height/blah/blah/blah issue. Seriously - could people just GET OVER themselves.
According to the calendar hanging in my kitchen - February is also the month for: Waitangi Day (NZ) 2/6, Lincoln's Birthday (US) & National Foundation Day (Japan) 2/12, Valentine's Day (US) 2/14, National Flag of Canada Day (CAN) 2/15, Chinese New Year (Hong Kong) 2/18, Family Day, Washington's Birthday, Presidents Day 2/19, Mardi Gras 2/20, Ash Wednesday 2/21. There you go - there are a few more opportunities for you to go forth and find more things to trumpet as offensive, evil doing out there.
Me, personally, I'm gonna buy some chocolate for my honey for Valentine's Day, which is celebrated in February, which also is the chosen month for Black History Month.

Posted by seriously | January 24, 2007 2:08 PM
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just wanted to make sure you got my point. :)

Posted by seriously | January 24, 2007 2:10 PM
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definitely blog-worthy. very stupid marketing people at Tullys. bad coffee and bad marketing. race issue, not so much.

Posted by mofo destroyer | January 24, 2007 2:11 PM
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Seriously: Who identified the Tully's flub as "evildoing"?

I'm not even saying it's racist, just an impressively klutzy advertising faux pas.

But thanks for sharing, twice.

Posted by David Schmader | January 24, 2007 2:12 PM
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Should we all head over to that Chocolate City bar (formerly Deano's) on Madison to celebrate?

Posted by treacle | January 24, 2007 2:13 PM
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Mofo Destroyer: Thanks for understanding.

Posted by David Schmader | January 24, 2007 2:13 PM
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According to the National Confectioners Association, there are already FOUR "National Chocolate Days", on "International Chocolate Day", plus an entire "National Chocolate Week". Interestingly (or not, depending) none of these fall in the month of February.

However, according to another web site(damned spam filter!), February IS "National Snack Food Month".

I have no idea who or what entity is responsible for handing out "national ___ days/months", but make of it what you will.

Posted by COMTE | January 24, 2007 2:14 PM
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Hey Seriously, you should change your name to Boring. 'K, thx.

Posted by treacle | January 24, 2007 2:15 PM
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i try to exclusively support independent coffee retailers but, it should be pointed out that tully's did the right thing by bowing to pressure from UW students last year with regard to fair trade coffee beans.

it should also be noted that tully's is cited as one of the retailers using fair trade cocoa. fair trade certified website.

seattle is also home to the first roaster of certified fair trade cocoa beans, theo chocolate in fremont.

Posted by kerri harrop | January 24, 2007 2:15 PM
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It seems to me that this was a coincidence... and I'm hoping white chocolate is on the menu. Because I like my chocolate like I like my men: pasty white.

Posted by Dan Savage | January 24, 2007 2:17 PM
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What's offensive is Coke's new ad campaign celebrating Black History Month. Called "Timeline," it shows old Coke bottles next to great moments in African-American history. It fails to mention, however, the Coca-Cola Company's heavy investments in apartheid South Africa.

Posted by DOUG. | January 24, 2007 2:21 PM
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tullys changed their chocolate to shit. thats why they have that stupid poster, it just brought back my anger.

Posted by blehpunk | January 24, 2007 2:36 PM
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Shouldn't Chicano history month be the shortest since mexicans are the shortest ethnic group in america?

Posted by James Jones | January 24, 2007 2:51 PM
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There is enough to be outraged about in this world. This is not one of them.

-Reverend Foot

Posted by ReverendFoot | January 24, 2007 3:12 PM
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Jesus, Doug, you're missing something very obvious there: Coca-Cola is based in Atlanta, and had a long history of heavy investments in apartheid AMERICA.

As for Tully's, and every other Official Month and Official Day ever dreamed up by some marketroid, all I gotta say is, what did you expect? James Baldwin?

Posted by Fnarf | January 24, 2007 3:23 PM
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Tullys defenders, lighten up, this was posted as an "appreciate the irony issue." I don't think anyone needs to holler about how tired they are about political correctness or race issues here, Schmader is right, simply a klutzy advertising faux pas.

Although, I think there is some room to get angry that more middle class white people are going to visit the Tully's on 19th for chocolate than will ever think about, nor appreciate Black History month.

Posted by moral_skeptic | January 24, 2007 3:36 PM
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#29 = best post! I happen to enjoy my men in the same manner.

This is obviously not a race-issue (although, so many people want it to be). I just can't believe that somewhere down the chain of command, someone at Tully's didn't look at it and see that it could be taken the wrong way!

Posted by Race wuh? | January 24, 2007 3:48 PM
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Why you crying for? February is Black Love Month.

Posted by Bono | January 24, 2007 3:48 PM
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Comte - I think congress has to make some proclamation that it's "So & So" month. Speaking of which, I am a "So & So" and I don't have a month.

James Jones - I think, on average, Asians are shorter than Chicanos.

Posted by elswinger | January 24, 2007 4:15 PM
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Three words to this: White Suburban Guilt. "Chocolate lover" is a term of affection... a euphemism for an African American sex partner. Or a fan of cocoa based confectionaries. Sheesh... they didn't even allude to African American Month in the add. Not everything in the world is a slight and if it is: Get a grip.

Posted by Phenics | January 24, 2007 4:17 PM
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God, it's SAINT Valentine's Day, people. I guess you've all extended your war on Christmas a few more months.

Posted by Jojo | January 24, 2007 4:24 PM
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No way! Look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height the average mexican american man is less than 5'5", and the average asian man is 5'7".
Have you ever spent time in a mexican neighborhood? (I live in one in SF) I'm 5'10" and I'm the tallest person on my block.

Especially indigos, those are a short bunch.

Posted by James Jones | January 24, 2007 6:10 PM
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I will forever boycott Tully’s due to their travesty known as the 'Swirkle'!

I love coffee flavoured milkshakes and when drug into a Tullys by a caffeine addicted friend, I asked if they had milkshakes. The person behind the counter suggested that a ‘Swirkle’ was similar. I wish I had tried it in the store before I left, so I could spit the first taste into their face! It was so foul I prised the lid off and attempted to discern what it was concocted of. Apparently nothing more than foam and used coffee grounds amongst some half diced ice, I poured it into the gutter and swore off Tullys forever!

Oh, and the subject at hand? Dumb PR move and foolish because of that, that's all.


Posted by K X One | January 24, 2007 6:22 PM
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ok, had my lighthouse coffe, turned my face to the sun and shook off my crappy mood. I definitely woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.

I got the ad, I got where you were going with it David.
The Tully's marketing pro's, sadly, probably weren't even thinking about the possible interpretations.

My original post was a spontanoues reaction to the letter from the Tully's new employee.

Posted by seriously | January 24, 2007 7:07 PM
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I see many positive responses, but is there not reason to believe that this is completely racist and that we should demand that tullys pull this advertising campaign? I believe contacting the NAACP is in order. I know there are a huge number of African Americans that work at Tully's (Yeah right) and I am sure one of their African American employees in the home office were in support of this, oh wait there aren't any. This is an outrage.

Posted by Former employee | January 25, 2007 10:57 PM
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No doubt this would never have come to pass if the corporate office weren’t so pasty white.

Posted by Current employee | January 26, 2007 8:21 AM
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The marketing department definately are riders of the short bus. I'm sure they will have to do a road show from a store that has an african american customer base to celebrate the love of black chocolate... jack asses

Posted by expectless | January 28, 2007 7:23 PM
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K X One, if it makes you feel any better - the swirkle hasn't been on the menu for about 3 years.

As an employee, I'm not looking forward to the inevitable backlash from customers to our faces. See, corporate doesn't have to worry about that. They can ignore emails, we can't ignore the customers.

Posted by Current Employee #2 | January 31, 2007 1:07 AM
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What an oversight!

We have a Tully's in the building where I work. When I mentioned the implications of their advertisement campaign to the on-duty manager, he recommended I call their hotline or send an email. I told him I wasn't complaining, just pointing our their blunder.

I so hope this makes it on the Daily Show!

Posted by RackofWHAT? | February 2, 2007 4:23 PM
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I work for tully's and was the first in our store to notice this nonsense...
20 minutes after I posted it onto every wall of our store, a black guy comes up and says "chocolate month?? its funny...but it's wrong"

december's ads were "tastier than a tennis bracelet"

I want to slap the marketing team in the face and say "snap out of it!"

Posted by veedubber | February 4, 2007 6:47 PM
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I have to Laugh about this! Everytime we get new stuff up it makes me giggle.. Everytime it gets kornier. Completly over looked. yes. Should have been caught.. yes. BUT come on people. Give it a rest. Its for fucking Valentines day.. Geez!!!!!

Posted by Current employee | February 5, 2007 7:49 PM

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