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Tuesday, January 2, 2007

Re: Headline of the Day

posted by on January 2 at 11:37 AM

Ironically Dan, that cost spike for roads projects is going to kill mass transit, not save or resurrect it.

Here’s why: the public vote on those roads projects (which now seems like a loser) is tied to the vote for light rail expansion. Transit fans were counting on bringing roads fans along with that batch of projects … and vice versa.

Well, when things go wrong, the equation can backfire. And now, the glum news about roads is jeopardizing light rail expansion.

I’m glad The Seattle Times finally picked up the story. It ran in last week’s Stranger … and before that on Slog. It’s a big deal.

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Ed Murray has publicly said he regrets tying the two together.

Posted by news | January 2, 2007 11:49 AM
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I wish Ed Murray would have thought that through before he did that. He just lost my vote next election cycle. I like the work for gay civil rights which is wonderful but there is more to legislative life in Olympia beyond gay rights. Did you see him on the Seattle Channel last week? I am sick of one issue politicians even if they are Democrats!

Posted by Andrew | January 2, 2007 12:07 PM
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I'm not so sure Josh. I still think that both can be sold to the voters. It's a hundred dollars a year PER HOUSEHOLD.

However, if this thing loses, transit will be an easier sell next time. And believe me there will be a next time. And a time after that. And then more. And then I'll be dead and there will be more.

Posted by Dave Coffman | January 2, 2007 12:28 PM
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It's a fairly simple matter to pull them apart in session, especially with massive majorities. If they don't, both will die. As it stands, RTID is dead regardless.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 2, 2007 1:08 PM
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"It's a hundred dollars a year PER HOUSEHOLD."

Thank you, Mr. Coffman. I wish the media would make a habit of reporting the per-household costs of public projects rather than the lump sum, which always seems so staggeringly large.

Posted by Sean | January 2, 2007 1:13 PM
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I love how the local press also has no ability to properly describe basic concepts like financing, inflation and the time-value relationship of money.

If I have to read one more word about the "$11 billion monorail project"...

My other favorite it to account only for construction costs with roadway projects and then compare those numbers to design-build-operate and maintain costs for transit projects.

Posted by golob | January 2, 2007 1:18 PM
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And it just gets worse with the media coverage. The Seattle Times just posted that the cost is now going to be 31% over what it was originally. Gee, wonder if that will sway voters? Like Arianna Huffington said "The press isn't liberal or conservative biased, it simply has an attention deficit disoder".

Posted by Andrew | January 2, 2007 1:51 PM
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An additional $100 per year on freeways that I rarely use? No thanks. Automobiles already get enough subsidizes. Cut 'em off already!

I'm voting against RTID no matter what. If it is coupled with ST, well then too bad.

Posted by Andrew Hitchcock | January 2, 2007 1:52 PM
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Part of the reason RTID and ST2 need to be joined has to do with subarea equity. Right now east king co. subarea (in particular) hasn't had enough spent in it. If RTID and ST2 get approved together, the (approx. $1.5 billion from RTID that will be spent on roads (I-405 in bellevue, up on sammamish plateau, etc.) gets to be counted along with the ST spending there. THat will allow the subarea spending to be "equitable." De-coupling would exacerbate the already-bad subarea equity imbalance.

Posted by Moral Guidance | January 2, 2007 2:13 PM
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Hmm, I walk to work more than half of the time, and sometimes bus - can I get a refund on $60 of that $100?

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 2, 2007 2:15 PM
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You're a lucky one Will. I bet not even 5% of the metro area can walk to work.

Posted by Dave Coffman | January 2, 2007 3:24 PM
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You think I'm hard core, Dave? One of my colleagues bikes in most days from Kirkland to Gas Works Park every day. Today she drove cause of the winds. And resultant spray. And rain. Normally she does it even with light rain and moderate wind.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 2, 2007 3:53 PM
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oh, and I'll be voting against the RTID, even if it kills ST.

Posted by Will in Seattle | January 2, 2007 3:54 PM

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