Slog - Comments on Morning News http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41 Iraqis vs. Iraqis: Iraqi government troops lead fight, killing 200 in bloody battle of Najaf. Palestinians vs. Palestinians: Saudi Arabia urges talks to stop violence between Fatah and Hamas. Palestinians vs. Israelis: Just four days before scheduled peace process meeting in DC, the first Palestinian suicide bombing in 9 months kills three in Israeli bakery. Sudan vs. Sudan: How can Sudan keep African Union peace keepers out of Darfur so it can keep killing its own people? By having Sudanese President al-Bashir take over the African Union, of course. Olympia vs. Text Messaging: Legislation in Oly would ban texting while... Copyright 2008 Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:56:26 -0800 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:58:25 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by cressona In today's Seattle Times, a terrific column by a conservative writer on achieving energy independence.

It's interesting, when conservatives get over their denial about problems like dependence on foreign oil and global warming, they seem to come up with more serious solutions than liberals do. Or maybe I should say, it's interesting how individuals not running for office (Al Gore) seem to come up with more serious solutions to these problems than active politicians (the new Democrat-controlled Congress).

]]> cressona http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601602 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601602 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:50:22 -0800 Comment by SeMe Israeli Army vs Lebanese Civilians

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070129/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_israel

Funny how this gets burried to the back of most newspapers, though it was always clear at that time that the IDF was targeting civilian areas.

Way for the US to support the only rising Arab democracy in the middle east.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601669 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601669 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:07:26 -0800 Comment by Fnarf So the standards are so low in the Arab Middle East that a country descending into civil war is considered a "rising democracy".

Way to buy into the Bush party line. Those fabulous "democratic" demonstrations in Lebanon two years ago were nothing of the kind; they were the opening moves in a new tragedy.

But Israel, the "apartheid state" of the Middle East, has an Arab cabinet minister now. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for a Jewish cabinet minister in Iraq, or Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt? Oh, wait, they can't; they expelled all their Jews, or (as in Iraq) are forcibly expelling the few who remain as I type this. But that's not the story people want to hear.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601701 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601701 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:27:23 -0800 Comment by SeMe FNARF
So the standards are so low in the Arab Middle East that a country descending into civil war is considered a "rising democracy".

Its not now, It certainly was that then.

But Israel, the "apartheid state" of the Middle East, has an Arab cabinet minister now. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for a Jewish cabinet minister in Iraq, or Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt?

If youre making a thinly veiled reference to president Carter's book, than lets be clear that he was referring to the conditions of the occupied territories and not Israel.

And I am not about to defend Egypt, Syria and as far as Iraq, well, we certainly built that democracy didnt we?

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601723 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601723 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:38:53 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi Jews weren't expelled from most Middle Eastern countries. They left voluntarily, and who can blame them? Leaders of more moderate Muslims countries, such as Morocco, begged them to stay.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601738 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601738 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:42:53 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Didn't we already win in Najaf? Or was that the place we kept winning and then kept losing?

I'm sorry, it's hard to keep track in the War on Admitting Failure.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601802 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601802 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:10:14 -0800 Comment by sputnik And that Asteroid is still steadily on its way in 2020 and 2039. none of our puny human us vs them is going to matter. We better put our focus on helping to save this planet instead of trying to continue needless war over what? a piece of desert. This planet going to be a desert when that asteroid hits us. Lookit up. and the scientists have yet to recieve funding. The money goes to the wars on this planet. We got our prioties screwed up.
Hg wells was right. Mans greatest folly is himself. He predicted all we do with our investment in science is turn it into war. We will not care about anything but war. Were toast thanks to our ignorance of whats really going to destroy us. stupid ass religion and politrix. I cant' wait till that asteroid comes within our orbit and scientists plead with someone to give them funding for actually testing if their theories of how to stop it from hitting the earth actually work.
We can't even get enough shuttles or rockets in space it costs so much. and the politicians want another 62 billion to go to the war effort. and .....thats enough you see my point.
Everything in the news is futile. We spent last 100 years doing nothing but fighting. yeah we went to the moon. but so what. Notice that prioties of NASa and exploration shifted because of Vietnam and fighting the communists. Well nothings changed. Maybe we all want that rock to eventually wipe us out. Spreading democracy my ass, how about Save the Planet as maybe what may bring people together. NT2002 see you soon suckers.

]]> sputnik http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601883 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601883 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:35:25 -0800 Comment by him SeMe-
My one disagreement with you would be that Israel used the munitions in civilian areas, against US policy. But it is sad to see that anytime an Arab country exhibits signs of democracy, we punish them if we don't like the party who won.

]]> him http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601977 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c601977 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 11:21:38 -0800 Comment by SEMe him:

"My one disagreement with you would be that Israel used the munitions in civilian areas, against US policy."

I am in agreement with you. I posted the article to ilustrate the things that get hidden. Mainly, the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas. I am not in agreemnt with the article that it was against US, or rather Bush administration policy. This was being denounced by human rights groups during the war, but was given little press. To me it is clear that Bush and the Israeli right wing have the same policy. I was being sarcastic when I said, "way for the US to support"

FNARF


]]> SEMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c602059 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/morning_news_41#c602059 News Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:04:58 -0800 Comment by SeMe oops

The last part did not post.

FNARF:
"has an Arab cabinet minister now"


I am in agreement with your point there, which I assume you mean to show true progress, I agree that it does, however, it was interesting to read this today:

"the head of the Yisrael Beiteinu Party, Avigdor Lieberman -- who has repeatedly questioned Israeli Arabs' loyalty and called for the possible revocation of their citizenships -- has been brought into the Olmert government and given an important security position in the cabinet."

Salon has a great article on the second class citizenship of Israeli Arabs, though on paper they are supposed to have full rights under the law.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/01/29/israeli_arabs/

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