Slog - Comments on Donnie Davies-Gate: Day Three... And Even I'm Losing Interest http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im Radar got ahold of our drummer the prime suspect--the drummer in the band Bobby Conn and the Glass Gypies--and he naturally enough ">denied being Donnie "God Hates a Fag" Davies. It's looking more and more like "Donnie Davies," the singer behind gay-hating sing-along "The Bible Says," is a hoax. But one real-life musician accused of perpetrating it insists he's innocent. Yesterday, Good As You, an anti-discrimination website, made the case that Davies is actually a member of Chicago-area band Bobby Conn and the Glass Gypsies, listed as a "gay band" on the Love God's Way website. While Good As... Copyright 2008 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:09:15 -0800 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:35:22 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Gabriel Mika seems like a more deserving target of your obsession.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598754 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:10:19 -0800 Comment by mirror Dammit Dan! Now I'm becoming a Glass Gypsies fan.

Tell me the sense humor exhibited in the song/video linked below isn't the same as God Hates a Fag. If its not then the gods are pretty darn coincident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmSWNWRZg4Q&mode=user&search=

]]> mirror http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598756 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598756 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:13:25 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Um, his publicist could put a stop to all the speculation in five seconds by providing a street address for "Love God's Way", or some other evidence that this ministry actually exists, or some other evidence that "our national network of online Christian ministries" exists.

There's a lot of thought and effort that went into the initial blast of this thing, but there's usually nothing behind the curtain, nothing left to show us. Real ministries don't work this way.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598789 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598789 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:30:45 -0800 Comment by JessB Damnit, I thought you guys totally nailed it with the BobbyConn thing...it's gotta be him.

]]> JessB http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598817 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598817 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:40:07 -0800 Comment by Tom C. If I can't cum on Donnie Davies, I'll settle for the Colby dude.

]]> Tom C. http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598828 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598828 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:44:21 -0800 Comment by Pope Nyx God hates a publicity stunt. Or maybe that's just me.

In the lyrics of "The Bible Says," it actually says "there's no back door" to heaven. Mm-hmm.

*cough*

]]> Pope Nyx http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598832 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598832 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:47:00 -0800 Comment by Baxter Satire satire satire. To what end, I don't know. But it's definitely the same dude.

]]> Baxter http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598859 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598859 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:57:07 -0800 Comment by Chadboulet No, no, no. Davies is not Colby Starck. Nor is he Todd Quillen. And most of you amateur armchair detectives are asking the wrong questions as you furiously attempt to make sense of this mess. The big wrong question: it is brilliant performance art, or is Donnie for real? The fault lies in the second half of the question. No -- "Donnie" is not for real, but that does not prove that he is lampooning fundamentalism's take on homosexuality. My theory: the man who calls himself Donnie Davies is in fact a Christian -- not the garden variety fundamentalist type that we can easily get a handle on, but the renegade, dangerous, irrational type -- the kind that can find a Bible verse to justify bombing an abortion clinic. His message is VERY sincere -- God hates homosexuality. And if that statement isn't enough shock and awe for you, he quickly follows it up with a knife-twist by informing us that if you are one of them, God hates you personally [in the video, this line is delivered each time with a particularly insidious and evil smile]. The name of the song is "The Bible Says," which speaks strongly to his bottom-line message: The Bible definitively condemns homosexuality. The Bible, people.

It is clever only in the sense that Davies realized that he could speak his mind in song and get away with it if he couched his message in some sort of Christian ministry package -- and that posing as a reformed homosexual might bring some credibility to the whole ruse. We find it hard to believe there are such losers in this world; we don't want to believe they are out there. But listen to this man: God hates fags. Whoever Donnie is, he really does mean it, and he must be happy that he's getting away with saying it right now.

To those who say it's parody because there are "humorous" double entendres in the lyrics, lines like "there is no backdoor to heaven" actually support my argument. As for his "gay music" and "safe music" lists, I don't find them humorous enough to be satirical -- in fact, they just sort of have the ring of a homophobe's hate list. "But why is Cyndi Lauper on the safe list?," you irony theorists ask. Well, for starters, she is a born-again Christian, and was rumored to be gay in the past.

To paraphrase Forrest Gump, hate is as hate does. All you intellectual snobs who pity the humorless irony-challenged folks like me who "just don't get it" need to wake up and smell the vitriol.

]]> Chadboulet http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598903 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598903 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:19:45 -0800 Comment by famousmortimer the blonde gentleman at the control board in "The Bible Says" video looks a lot like the blonde guy in the Glass Gypsies promo shots, sans beard.

]]> famousmortimer http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598969 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c598969 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:52:27 -0800 Comment by Levislade I bet "Donnie" is surprised anyone thought it was anything but a joke. Come on, people!

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599002 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599002 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:11:51 -0800 Comment by Jamie Proctor Colby Starck is not Donnie Davies, as he's made clear, and is suprised by this whole thing as anyone.

For a more recent look at Colby Starck, here's he and the rest of Bobby's band in the recent video for "King for a Day," title track of Bobby's upcoming album - proof that Colby no longer looks anything like Donnie Davies (look for Colby at around 00:18) and also proof that Bobby Conn should have probably been farther up on Donnie's list of "Gay Bands" to watch out for.

KING FOR A DAY party version

Colby has already said it very clearly, but as Bobby Conn's (and by association Colby's) publicist, I'll say it again, Colby Starck is not Donnie Davies. Colby says, "While I'm honored to be a part of a viral internet sensation, I'm kind of bummed that they think I'm some kind of hateful-christian-rocker."

]]> Jamie Proctor http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599088 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599088 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:16:57 -0800 Comment by Lola Yawn.

]]> Lola http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599099 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599099 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:16 -0800 Comment by G-A-Y Mr. Procter, as the band's publicist, please nip the idea in the bud that anyone was ever accusing him of being a homophobe. He and others keep defending his record against homophobia, but what he was thought to have done was satirize ex-gay/anti-gay ministries.

]]> G-A-Y http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599129 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599129 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:30:00 -0800 Comment by mischka and since when does thrilljockey have publicists?

]]> mischka http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599151 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599151 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:44:16 -0800 Comment by jamie proctor I've seen a lot of accusations and defenses flying around about this whole thing, so apologies if I mistakenly implied the implication of anything

]]> jamie proctor http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599177 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599177 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:09:03 -0800 Comment by arlopop he's at it again

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6BWTsn7SmHQ&mode=user&search=

]]> arlopop http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599194 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599194 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:23:35 -0800 Comment by Levislade "[Jesus] does love you, but God hates you, and that's just the bible."

And the CHOPS logo? Come on now, this is hilarious - intentionally hilarious - stuff.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599223 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599223 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:39:21 -0800 Comment by Deb Occle From the new video: "I could dunk a basketball."

HOAX.

]]> Deb Occle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599226 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599226 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:39:51 -0800 Comment by Aislinn Agreed w/ #18. The new video is too much.

]]> Aislinn http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599251 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599251 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:52:13 -0800 Comment by Alan I think CHOP must be related to BASH, Betty Bowers' ministry. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see that Donnie were a True Christian™ and member of Landover Baptist Church.

]]> Alan http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599293 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599293 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:09:45 -0800 Comment by arlopop Did anyone catch the CHOPS logo at the end of the new video?

That is the best new facet to this piece of theatre.

]]> arlopop http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599308 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599308 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:19:45 -0800 Comment by Tom Chadboulet: "My theory: the man who calls himself Donnie Davies is in fact a Christian -- not the garden variety fundamentalist type that we can easily get a handle on, but the renegade, dangerous, irrational type -- the kind that can find a Bible verse to justify bombing an abortion clinic."

What you fail to realize is that two brothers living in the Redding area had the exact same 'comical' ideology. They insisted that God demanded the death sentence on gays and them went out and murdered a totally innocent man who had been in a long term relationship. You self-righteous demigods on the right are playing with fire and will never know the true damage you feed with your sick hate and bigotry. Gerry Spence's new bestseller addresses this issue specifically.

]]> Tom http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599473 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/donnie_daviesgate_day_three_and_even_im#c599473 Homo Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:35:22 -0800