Slog - Comments on Calm Down, Seattlest http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest While just about anything creationists do is enough to get me hopping mad, I have to say the press release Seattlest just linked to doesn't quite do the trick. Contrary to the inflammatory language, I see nothing to indicate Grand Canyon park rangers aren't allowed to tell visitors the estimated geologic age of the canyon. What's happening is the the National Park Service overruled an attempt to remove a creationist book, Grand Canyon: A Different View, from the gift shop. Now, I'd rather the book not be in the gift shop, but that's hardly a gag order. Now, please enjoy... Copyright 2008 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:11:32 -0800 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:12:14 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Original Andrew Replacing the word “God” with “Flying Spaghetti Monster” or even “Zeus” does show how crazy the whole religion thing is, doesn’t it?

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581302 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581302 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:38:49 -0800 Comment by Fnarf The problem with the creationist book at the Grand Canyon is that it is purporting to serve a scientific explanation of what you're seeing, but it's actually full of shit. Would you be upset if you went to the Holocaust Museum and found a copy of The Protocols in the gift shop? Now, would you be upset if the Protocols was the only book approved for sale this year, while several thousand legitimate books on the subject of Jews were rejected? That's the situation at the Grand Canyon. There are scientific books for sale there, but no new ones have been approved for ages, while this creationist garbage has been. It should be removed.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581313 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581313 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:57:57 -0800 Comment by annie Oh, of course it should be removed. But that news has been floating around for a while, and a purposefully misleading press release (see Seattlest's interpretation) is not the way to inform people about the situation.

]]> annie http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581329 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581329 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:02:23 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle I for one welcome our new anti-science park ranger service, and look forward to historically reenacting their biblical stonings in the near future.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581334 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581334 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:12:59 -0800 Comment by Ronald Holden NPS knows better. Here's what they say on their own website. On their own website, NPS.gov, there's a link to a neutral discussion. Go to ... grca/naturescience/naturalfeaturesandecosystems.htm

]]> Ronald Holden http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581351 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581351 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:29:09 -0800 Comment by Courtney Jeez, can't a girl blows off a little steam? (Yes, I dug around the NPS site and found the same page that Ronald found.) But if you read PEER more closely, the complaint is two-fold: there's the damn book (that issue dates back to 2003) and then there's the claim that, under previous NPS leadership, Grand Canyon rangers were pressured to tiptoe around the science if asked. I don't know that this is true, but when I hear back from the science and PR offices at the Grand Canyon (they are closed today because of Gerald Goddamned Ford) then I'll write more. Yes, this isn't brand-spanking new stuff: the PEER press release is re-fanning a fire that purportedly folks from the NPS let die down intentionally, and with a new director at the helm (the second one appointed by Bush, I might add) they're hoping to get more traction. Fan away, I say...

]]> Courtney http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581364 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581364 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:54:08 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle I demand that Park Rangers hold daily services on how the lack of pirate fish and pirates is causing the Grand Canyon to get emptier due to global warming.

After all, a thousand strands of spaghetti, as Bush says.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581398 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581398 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:48:06 -0800 Comment by Levislade I like how the Discovery Institute guy can't even spell "Sistine" correctly.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581407 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581407 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:53:42 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Sistein: it's Jewish, right?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581413 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581413 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:56:32 -0800 Comment by SeattleExile RAmen!

]]> SeattleExile http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581462 http://slog.thestranger.com/2007/01/calm_down_seattlest#c581462 News Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:12:14 -0800