Comments on Timelines and Deadlines

not to mention the fact that around that many iraqi civilians are killed every month.

that assumes anyone in W's camp use logic. Believe me, when you point this out to one if W's apologists, they will not be buying it.

Don't count on Bush's base, or even the majority of Americans, to give a shit about the Iraqi death count.

You're totally wrong, Eli. For the Bush crowd, the score is not: 3,000 died in 9/11 and 3,000 died now, so the Iraq invasion was a bad idea.
Rather it's this formula:

9/11: Terrorists beat us 2,973 to 19.
Post-911: we beat the terrorists 655,000 to 3,000.

"At that point, all the lines the Bush administration has used to justify the Iraq war will be, politically speaking, dead."

Ummm..... The terrorist line was DOA. The humanitarian line was dead by 1986 at the latest, when the Reagan administration funded his WMDs. And the WMD line was dead AS WELL AS beating the dead terrorism horse into more of a pulpy mush when it turned out the US didn't even guard Sadaam's weapons sites from looters after they took over (and most were subsequently looted, I'm too lazy to find the NYT article)

The issues driving the war now are massive humanitarian disaster if we leave (probably legitimate, at least until we lose all semblance of control) and Shiite control of a hefty chunk of the world's oil supply which remains quite significant to anybody worried about the maintenance of American world Hegemony, which is a lot more than you'd think.

Sooo I actually don't think the death count is meaningful at all.

"At that point, all the lines the Bush administration has used to justify the Iraq war will be, politically speaking, dead."

Ummm..... The terrorist line was DOA. The humanitarian line was dead by 1986 at the latest, when the Reagan administration funded his WMDs. And the WMD line was dead AS WELL AS beating the dead terrorism horse into more of a pulpy mush when it turned out the US didn't even guard Sadaam's weapons sites from looters after they took over (and most were subsequently looted, I'm too lazy to find the NYT article)

The issues driving the war now are massive humanitarian disaster if we leave (probably legitimate, at least until we lose all semblance of control) and Shiite control of a hefty chunk of the world's oil supply which remains quite significant to anybody worried about the maintenance of American world Hegemony, which is a lot more than you'd think.

Sooo I actually don't think the death count is meaningful at all.

aghhh sorry for the double post, you guys have to change your script so that hitting the post button immediately closes the window.

The Iraqis are beating themselves.
Troops home now!ASAP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIehhCuq8dY
let the middleeast sort it out who runs Iraq.