This is a private matter?
You got that right. But hey, bozo, do you read your own Slogs? Will you do ANYTHING to get on TV?
"Mary Cheney, Vice President Dick Cheney’s carpet-munching daughter, is pregnant. I wonder what the gay haters on the right—they’re opposed to same-sex relationships, gay adoption, and the insemination of lesbians—are going to make of the news. Unless Cheney’s conception was immaculate, or Cheney’s butch partner is even butcher than she appears to be, Mary Cheney had some help.
It looks like the Washington Post refrained from asking the obvious follow-up question: Who’s the baby daddy? Who donated the spunk? Unknown donor? Frozen sperm? Or a known donor, a friend of Heather & Mary’s? A lot of lesbians are hooking up with gay men to make babies—these newish arrangements were the subject of a recent New York Times Magazine piece. So was it a Republican homo donor dad? Ken Mehlmen? Ted Haggard? Mark Foley?
Inquiring minds wanna know."
It's been a long day. I'm a changed man.
You go! I couldn't agree more. Those f***s are too busy talking out both sides of their mouths to make any sense.
No, I agree with the commenter above. You're pretty much a hypocritcal sack of shit! Other than that, nice work.
There are good hypocrites as well as bad.
not tulip bulbs, vestibular bulbs....
it is too bad you didn't think of this before the broadcast. Would have been nice to hear the response.
Just saw you on the three-peat, Dan. Good job. There's no changing the positions of the wingnuts like the woman you were debating with but you may have brought a thought or two into the heads of the casual viewer. Thank you.
If Mary Cheney really was campaigning against the marriage amendment in Virginia, she did it pretty quietly. A $1,000 check? Tch.
Anyway: B-b-but there are STUDIES! This from someone at Mrs Left Behind's 'think-tank'. How about you make a bet if there's a next time: if Baby Cheney-Poe makes it to maturity without becoming a crackwhore, Concerned Woman dances on a float at Pride.
Dan Savage you are my hero. I just saw you on CNN and your ability to stay focused and on topic when some closed minded moron is spouting bullshit at you is amazing.
Dan Savage you are my hero. I just saw you on CNN and your ability to stay focused and on topic when some closed minded moron is spouting b.s. at you is amazing.
Where's the YouTube link?
Comment #1 you need, perhaps, a sense of humor infusion? The slog you quoted was written with a large dollop of jest. (Not completely in jest, of course, and hey, I'm curious about the daddy derby, too.) The comments Dan made on Anderson Cooper's show were wholly serious. That damn cow from Constipated Women for America had nothing to present other than the same old idiotic, bigoted, smugger-than-thou nonsense, which, I was glad to see Cooper made an effort to call her on several times. (In his polite, TV anchor, don't-ask-don't-tell sort of way.)
Of course this is a privacy matter. This began as a snarky slog attack on the irony found in a woman who actively campaigned for the election of a man who would deny her a family, dignity and civil rights, announcing with her lesbian partner of 15 years that she is with child. That's definitely worth a Cheneyesque smirk. It became something more serious, something else, when the Christianist busybodies began their attack later in the day.
Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Media Institute of the Media Research Center:
"I think it's tragic that a child has been conceived with the express purpose of denying it a father. Fatherhood is important and always will be, so if Mary and her partner indicate that that is a trivial matter, they're shortchanging this child from the start. Mary and Heather can believe what they want, but what they're seeking is to force others to bless their nonmarital relationship as marriage [and to] create a culture that is based on sexual anarchy instead of marriage and family values."
Dan is getting cuter as he ages. He takes a nice head shot.
# 16: Let's hear it for "sexual anarchy"; whatever that is......? Does that mean MEN won't control female sexuality? WHAHOO, I'M ALL FOR THAT!
Hey! Maybe after the baby's born Dan and Mary can bring both their kids on TV together!
Say what you will about the hypocrisy of Mary Cheney, but she's not a _complete_ media whore.
They don’t think Mary Cheney or any other lesbian should be in charge of her own uterus.
Actually, they don't think any woman should be in charge of her own uterus. Other than that minor quibble, excellent points, Dan.
#19 (and 20)
No, she's not a media whore. However, she is a child of privilege who worries not about rights as a whole because in her view rights can be bought. Let the rest eat cake.
B.D.--they were talking about Dan being the media whore.
I love the name, Concerned Women for America. That fat fucking cunt didn't know what hit her.
BTW, Dan did look good last night. Then he began speaking. Sigh...
I'm a concerned woman. I'm concerned that potiential sperm donors will look at this and say "Oh, FUCK no! If that's what can happen to my sperm, I'll keep it to myself!"
Well, Dan, my husband saw you on CNN while I was in the other room reading my autographed copy of "The Commitment" - and I think that I can say after last night that we are both your fans forever.
I do not have TV anymore which is fine. I turned my TV room into a drawing studio. But if the Dan interview comes up on" You Tube" it would be great too see. The only thing I have with Dan Savage in it is him on the "Lavern Show" introducing Dina Martina doing "Dina Dina Ballerina". It is one of my Prized clips. Dina Martina's uterus is now a national treasure I believe, like Mount Rushmore.
Let's hope the kid's dad is black! That could make things more interesting!
I forgot to say that Dina gave birth to her child (Phoebie) and I do not know who the father is and no one seems to make a big stink out of that.
does no one else find the quote in #16 particularly, um, poignant during this holiday season when we celebrate a woman named Mary bringing a fatherless child into the world via an unnatural non-sex act?
You know, I never thought of it that way: Jesus really was short-changed. Poor guy.
One of the wacko aritcles I read on this neglected to even mention Poe and just went on to say what a bad example she is setting by becoming a "single mother". Well if they could get married this wouldn't be an issue? They're "logic" is beyond my comprehension.
Dan, I don't think you're right that the bigots can't do anything about gay people having kids. States can, after all, have parents declared unfit and can take their kids away. We had better not underestimate how blindly, self-righteously dedicated the bigots are, or how apt the idiot American population is to go along with them. Organizations like CWA may be laughable, but they're also terrifying. Good job taking that woman down a peg, but ... brrrrrrrrr. Scary.
Damn I need cable. I guess I need to pray to youtube once again.
A in NC @ 31,
There's not much chance that a state will arbitrarily remove children from a healthy home. The nation's foster care systems are in total crisis because there are way too many kids who need homes and far too few acceptable foster parents.
So other than attacking us through constitutional amendments, there's not much the wrong wingers can do; except win the World Hypocrisy Olympics, of course.
As for my media whoredom, if I was a media whore I would move to New York. I don't get to do much TV, as I'm in Seattle which makes me expensive and inconvenient. Also, when CNN called last night the first words out of my mouth were, "You should ask Andrew Sullivan to do this." They already had, he couldn't, so they asked me.
Andrew, I hope you're right. I read your post and think, sure, but what would these people think constitutes a sufficiently "unhealthy" home to justify removing children? Maybe homes likely to consign those children's immortal souls to hell would count.
Then again, maybe I'm too pessimistic. In this as in so many things, the pragmatic issues work for us.
Great work on Anderson Cooper and I thought that AC was partial to your arguments more than the zaftig zombie of Concerned Women (which is headed by a man). I am, roughly, seven months pregnant, just had a doctor's appt yesterday and it's become abundantly clear to me that this society does not value women or their health care even/especially when they are in this exhaulted, holy condition.
My insurance, which is excellent by today's standards, does not cover whole swaths of my prenatal care. I got $5 of a fifty dollar prescription for prenatal vitamins. The pharmacist only filled the prescription for the amount the insurance 'covered' which was a month, despite the prescription being written for 90 days. Where's the care for the unborn there?
I vented a bit to my doctor and, of course, he's in complete agreement, but he added his experience dealing with insurance and hospitals. Did you know that Labor & Delivery is a 'loss leader' for hospitals? In other words, they don't make any money at it so the only reason they do it is that then the family develops a relationship with the whole family who will go to the place where their little angel was born for all their profitable health care.
I used go along with that old saw that the right wingnuts only cared about the unborn. Oh, if only that were true. They don't care about the unborn except as a symbol of their narrow 'values'. Hey, zaftig zombie, my kid's going to have a mother and father and we're married, could you help out with my vitamins to put your money where your foetus worshipping mouth is? I earn a comfortable living but I am not as rich as the Cheneys.
CNN.COM has a transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0612/06/acd.01.html
Seriously, I think I may have turned out better if I had homosexual parents. At least I would have been raised from the beginning to have an open mind and recognize that relationships DO NOT, in fact, only exist between "one man, and one woman." Anyone who thinks gays and lesbians can't get married or have children are just closed-minded haters that are too preoccupied with the fact that they, themselves, have absolutely no sex, so they have to go out and ruin it for everybody else. Does the relationship and family status of people we don't even know really even matter?
By the way, whoever left comment number 1 is a douche-bag who doesn't get it. Way to quote the Slog and not come up with your own real opinion!
When is she going to BC to get married?
Dan has been offered numerous TV shows. Cheesey shit, reality shows (cameras in his house), dating shows, etc. He has turned them all down. Because he won't do anything to get on TV.
That he is on TV from time to time is not evidence that he will do anything to get on TV. He could be on more if he wanted to.
"There's not much chance that a state will arbitrarily remove children from a healthy home. The nation's foster care systems are in total crisis because there are way too many kids who need homes and far too few acceptable foster parents."
Yes, but states like Oklahoma are prepared to deny the parenthood of same-sex couples who have adopted elsewhere but travel to states where they legally are not parents.
These people want so badly to bring back the "good ol' days" when you could take the children away from a homosexual couple, when you could fire them at will from their jobs, when they could be put in jail for immoral behavior. And the justification for wishing this hatefulness on other human beings for the awful crime of being in love?
As Quentin Crisp put it, because they can't think about sexuality without thinking of a specific sex act, and then they immediately think, "well, I wouldn't like to do THAT," so they are repulsed by anyone they think might do THAT.
Speaking as someone who was reared from birth by lesbians, the Concerned Women for America, Focus on the Family, and the rest of these blindly homophobic bigots can bite my lily-white ass. I am not a crack whore, I don't live under a bridge, I'm a taxpaying citizen in a happy marriage. So blow me, Zaftig Zombie Woman, you and all your hateful ilk.
I'm single, straight, childless and Canadian. 3 or maybe 4 out of 4 of those make me unqualified to comment, but, whatever.
I saw the thing on CNN and thought, Dan's opponent is either stupid or dishonest and is, knowingly or not, delivering a serious, hardcore, personal insult. Meanwhile, Dan looked calm and serious and did absolutely the best thing possible to get an American voter thinking, "Am I or am I not in support of gay or lesbian couples trying to raise kids," to agree with his position. Good work, Dan, even though from your remarks on this site it was obviously painful as hell.
Thanks for the link, Jenk. And a resounding "well done!" to Dan.
Would someone who lives in America please find Ms Crouse and punch her in the mouth for me?
Heh. I'm glad I had straight parents.
Of course, that's because I'm gay, and if I had parents that were too, they'd know better than to let me have as much unsupervised same sex contact when I was in HS. Thank you, straight parents, for fun afternoons.
The thing that the transcript doesn't reflect is some of the weird noises that Zaftig Zombie was making while Savage was speaking. Kind of coo-ing, kind of mmm-ing, kind of condescending.
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