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Sunday, December 17, 2006

Fatah Represent

posted by on December 17 at 11:59 AM

I used to sympathize (sympathize) with the “Third World” revolutionists who came out of the Frantz Fanon/Kwame Nkrumah/Ben Balla school: the PLO, the ANC, the FLN, the Sandinistas…

But ever since religious freakazoids like Khomeini, Hamas, Hassan al-Turabi, and the Taliban booted Che Guevara resistance and turned international slum nation liberation into sharia and takfir (see Darfur, the GIA, the Beslan school siege…), I have zero patience or sympathy for their cause.

And so, I got a quiet pang of leftist macho glee from this morning’s NYT photo of masked and armed Fatah guys standing up to Hamas. Yes, I know Fatah is a corrupt failure, supported now by Bush. And these guys probably don’t know who Frantz Fanon is. But a flicker of the secular left in the Middle East, bad ass on the streets, is okay by me in context.

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Flicker is an overstatement. Fatah (and almost every other militia ever) is organized crime with a thin veneer of nationalism.

Posted by carlos | December 17, 2006 12:36 PM
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On a marginally different topic, note the irony of this being scheduled for the December 15th Seattle Times – the one day the paper was published online so that no one would see it:

http://www.adl.org/ADL_Opinions/Religious_Freedom/20061215-OpedSeattletimes.htm

Posted by Ironifier | December 17, 2006 1:00 PM
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Israel fostered radical Islamist Hamas behind the scenes to destabilize Fatah. I suppose they are now fostering Fatah to fight Hamas. Fostering constant Palestinian internal dissent and thereby the most radicalized elements is a core foundation of Israel's long-term strategy to make the Palestinians disappear. I'm glad it makes you happy!

(And, yes, Israel-Palestine relations is the one thing I feel the need to post anonymously about. I like to be employed.)

Posted by anonymous | December 17, 2006 1:49 PM
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Anonymous,
You think you're anonymous. But the Jews control this web site, and we know who you are. We obviously, also own your employer. Consider yourself fired.

Posted by Money | December 17, 2006 2:21 PM
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Money:
I don't want to make it to easy for the randomly destructive. There are few more dedicated and energetic people in the world than the significant number of insecure Jewish-Americans who feel that any criticism of Israel is a personal threat to their existence. I sort of understand the psychology of it and am sort of sympathetic, but not so much that I'm going to go casually out on a limb in a blog trusting that one of them won't decide somehow that I'm a dangerous element when I'm actually a nobody.

Naively perhaps, I expect the staff at the Stranger not to be vindictive about occasional petty dissent. Of course they have my email and could easily find out who I am if I wasn't obviously so damn unimportant.

Posted by anonymous | December 17, 2006 2:59 PM
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If we Jews had the power anonymous attributes to us, wouldn't we have, oh, I don't know, prevented things like the attack on the Jewish Federation? Wouldn't we have installed Lieberman as president? Wouldn't we have gotten me more business by now, so I didn't have to struggle with my mortgage? Blaming the Jews only gives you about as much credibility as David Icke blaming the Reptilians.

Posted by Gitai | December 17, 2006 3:05 PM
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First off Hooray for levelheaded Anonymous.
Now for my flakiness,
I didn't go last night (I know Hannah, the Guns of Brixton rap was not to be missed) but is the pic of Fatah actually of a Clash tribute band?

Posted by another mouse | December 17, 2006 3:06 PM
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GITAI:
You are deliberately misreading what I am saying. I do not believe in a Jewish conspiracy. I just don't, but any passionate half-intelligent individual with some time on their hands can easily track down the identity of a poster, and its much easier if the poster uses a consistent identity.

You are actually acting somewhat like the individuals I was describing. Misreading and misconstruing what I am saying to paint it as a Hitlerian rant. In these situations its hard for me to tell if it is deliberate twisting of my words to undercut them or if you genuinely misunderstand.

Posted by anonymous | December 17, 2006 3:15 PM
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yeah, that was like, really cool when fatah, perhaps with the knowledge of palestine's president, tried to assasinate the elected prime minister of palestine. bad ass.

Posted by wf | December 17, 2006 3:24 PM
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(sigh) FSLN not FLN. Frente Sandinista de Liberación Nacional. Now how you can compare progressive liberation movements that incorporated all sectors of society and were held together with an anti imperialist somewhat nationalist identity ( Sandino, Marti) with the murderous Janjaweed in Darfur is anyone's guess. Any fool ( no offense) can see that the Janjaweed's equal are the US sponsored Contras and they are not a liberation movement, but an Arab militia recruited specifically to commit genocide.

Now Chechnya which was bombed into the stone age by the Russians in one of the most brutal and genocidal wars in modern Europe is very different, and yes they ( the Chechnya’s) use brutal terrorism, but it would appear that is a war of non justified desperation, it seeks no overthrow of a system, it would appear to be mere revenge. I agree that terrorism does not merit solidarity, and only a fool would support a non cause. though I am always curious how North Americans continued to support IRA bombers and called them Irish patriots against the Brits. The IRA who were clearly terrorists always seem to get a pass and most of mainstream north America seemed willing to understand that the reasons they chose to fight the Brits through terrorism is because they were very clear that they could not defeat them otherwise. Some would say that the Palestinians use the same logic or lack of logic. These ( your) poorly informed generalizations are at best ignorant of liberation movements or ideas that were formed at smoky restaurants somewhere in the east coast. But I think your classist and wee racist phrase, “slum nation liberation” speaks volume of your narrow view of the world. No one is saying that terrorism is right, but by not understanding the individual reasons and paint em all as those crazy third world folks who are now all Islamist is just so, so silly.

Posted by SeMe | December 17, 2006 4:05 PM
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Fine, anonymous. We couldn't get a fucking menorah put up in Sea-Tac. We're not going to cost you your job.

Posted by Gitai | December 17, 2006 4:33 PM
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Syria is the most left-wing country in the middle-east (they are fully old-school communist), and their army stands around with machine-guns a lot too. And they stand up to Israel. Oh and dangerous Lebanon as well. Mmm and they sponsor Hezbollah and probably Hamas. So who's left-wing again... and why is that a good thing (in such a context)?

Posted by John | December 17, 2006 5:40 PM
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Che Guevarra was a bloodthirsty murderer. Does resisting capitalism give him a carte blanche to conduct summary executions and torture counter-revolutionaries? I hope you don't think so, Josh. It's the same logic by which some right-wingers defend Pinochet's regime. I.e., "yeah, he was violent and bloody, but his heart was in the right place."

Posted by Matt | December 17, 2006 8:33 PM
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Israel has plenty of enemies, we've got to stand strong and demand the United States send even more troops to Iraq to protect Israel.


The war is hard now, but war will bring peace for Israel. Shalom.

Posted by Josh | December 18, 2006 4:42 PM
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When will the Palastinians try Ghandian peaceful resistance? Isn't it obvious that militant resistance will incur a police response from the state every time?

Posted by treacle | December 18, 2006 8:52 PM

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