Politics Are You the New Hugh Foskett?
posted by December 20 at 11:03 AM
onThe King County Republican Party is looking for fresh faces to represent the GOP in Seattle…
Michael Young, the newly re-elected chairman of the King County Republican Party, [has] a lofty if audacious vision: bringing some political diversity into Seattle’s contentedly liberal Democratic corridors of power.
Good luck with that, Mr. Young.
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You know, I'm your perfect guy, Mr. Young. I've never been a big fan of the leftiest elements of the Democrats, and I could totally get behind some old-fashioned Dan Evans-style Republican action, except for one little thing:
The R. I can't vote for the R, anymore, Mr. Young. I gave that up, and I'm not going back. I wouldn't vote for the second coming of Winston Churchill against Gary Ridgeway if he had an R next to his name.
It's not just Bush, either, Mr. Young. I gave up on the R back during Iran-Contra; I was never a fan of Ronnie Reagan, but I could stomach him; but when he set up a secret government in the basement with Ollie North in charge -- Ollie North, Mr. Young! -- that was kind of it. After that, it's been all downhill for me with the Rs. I thought Newt Gingrich was the last straw, but then I saw your current guy, G. W. That's the end, Mr. Young. To put it in real simple terms: if you have ever pulled the lever for Bush Jr., you're dead to me.
But there's one thing, Mr. Young. I know you're looking for candidates, not voters, and I could never be a candidate with my mouth, but I'll make you a deal, anyways. If you come out in favor of impeaching the President, and prosecuting Donald Rumsfeld for war crimes in an international court, I'll vote for your guy. It's gotta be the party, though, not just you. I'm not interested in handshake deals. I want to see you call for a criminal trial on the web page of the KCRP.
Until then, Mr. Young, I'm going to respectfully ask you to fuck off.
Oh, and one more thing, Mr. Young: Gay marriage. I'll be needing a clear and unequivocable statement that the KCRP recognizes that the time for gay marriage is here, and that you support it absolutely, on exactly the same terms as heterosexual marriage, and that the debate on the issue within the party is closed, and anyone who can't accept that should take their bigotry elsewhere. So that's two things.
Well said.
Thank you, Fnarf.
Hey, I'd vote for a Republican, so long as he/she was pro-choice, pro-environmental regulation, anti-discrimination (including against gays), supported progressive taxation, and pushed for greater healthcare/education access to all Americans regardless of income. And appropriately scornful of George Bush. And if your Democratic opponent happens to be an uninspiring douchebag.
To summarize, if you're a total Democrat with an R next to your name, running next to a less inspiring Democrat, then maybe I'll vote for you in a local election. Otherwise, GTFO.
Gay marriage? universal healthcare? George W Bush? What do any of these things have to do with running the City of Seattle?
First of all, the Republicans I know locally are generally liberal/libertarian on social issues and don't buy into the agenda of the Republican social conservative wing that some of you seem to conflate (incorrectly) with the entire GOP.
Any Republicans running for city offices would be focused solely on city issues.If you're happy with the way the city is being managed, then by all means vote for every incumbent and everybody endorsed by Greg Nickels and Jean Godden. If you think that the city could be doing a better job on schools, transportation and law enforcement, then maybe it wouldn't hurt to consider some different approaches and new leadership (whether or not the candidate agreed with Dan Savage 4 years ago on regime change in Iraq).
New York City's even more liberal than Seattle, and they've had two straight really good Republican mayors. It's not their party designation that's made them good, it's the fact that they aren't beholden to the unions and the party machine the way Democrats are.
Unions and party machines aren't such a big deal here, but it would be nice to have differing viewpoints in the general election for once.
Any Republicans running for city offices would be focused solely on city issues.
Progressive taxation most certainly is a local issue, and one on which the GOP uniformly fails. A Republican will NEVER support a move that might plausibly increase the tax burden on the wealthiest of constituents, regardless of necessity, without someone explicitly putting a gun to his/her head. And spare me the "we're just libertarians" spiel, Stefan - hell, why don't I just vote Libertarian then? Why indirectly extend more credibility to a party full of creationist Bible-thumping Neanderthals?
No plans to vote in the R column here. Sorry.
Stefan Sharkansky,
Why would any of us want to vote Republican and get more of your party's hate, open lies and gay bashing? Seattle is an awesome place to live precisely because we have very few Republicans. I’m sure you’d feel more at home in Mississippi or Talabama.
Your only “success” story here in Washington has been Rob McKenna, and he’s turned out to be just as much of a jackass as predicted. Oh, and that equal protection shredding asshole, Supreme Court "Justice" Jim Johnson, and I use the term "Justice" loosely because he makes a total mockery of the word.
In short, please fuck off and leave us alone.
Original Andrew, thanks for your input.
But help me out -- I'm a small-l libertarian, secular Jew. Why exactly do you think I would "feel more at home in Mississippi or Talabama [sic]"?
I don't know or care where you'd feel most at home, Sharkansky. I do know that the partisan hate originated with your people, not with mine. And you're lying down with them. Parties are important; I won't vote for a Republican, even a good Republican, simply because he or she is accepting of bullshit that I cannot tolerate. Hearing Republicans go on about how "we're not like THOSE Republicans" is actually more annoying than hard core rightists. Accept who you are.
If Michael Young's KC Republicans can't win a legislative seat in Bellevue, what makes anyone think they're going to beat Democrats in Seattle? They aren't.
Here's a little bit of evidence for my position. Only one major Republican candidate has broken 40 percent of the vote COUNTYWIDE in the last decade (Dino Rossi with 40.1 percent of the vote in the 2004 guv race). Mike McGavick got 30.3 percent; George W. got 34.4 percent in 2000 and 33.7 percent in 2004. And these numbers include Duvall, Carnation and Fall City.
There simply aren't enough Rs within the city (or enough Ds stupid enough to vote for a Republican) to make such a race competitive. Confidential to Stefan: When you run for office, people can ask you about anything, including your position on abortion, marriage equality and your political party preference. Your stealth plan won't work here, son.
Our problem in Seattle is not Republicans, it is Republicrats! We already have Bob "Lieberman" Ferguson (R) on the King County Council. He has done more for the Republicans in King County than most Republicans. I'm not worried about Mr. Young's "vision" for infiltrating Seattle. Young needs to move to eastern Washington and start over.
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