Slog - Comments on And the Non-Impact of the Democrats http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1 The top agenda items in Olympia for Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske are closing the gun-show loophole and renewing the assault-weapons ban. This hardly constitutes a move to nullify the Second Amendment, but rather it's tailored legislation to make our city streets and our cops safer. Well, the city is complaining that despite the Democrats' new 62-36 advantage in the house (a mandate if there ever was one) Speaker of the House Frank Chopp (D-43, Capitol Hill, U-District, Wallingford) is shy about moving forward on those two issues now. I asked Representative Chopp about this yesterday. Here's what he said:... Copyright 2008 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:04:20 -0800 Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:16:37 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by elswinger Couldn't we have a city or county ordinance regarding guns. If I still lived in the stick I with have kept my Winchester and Colt .22 pistol for plinking. I just don't have need for a gun in the city unless I plan on shooting myself.

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556710 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556710 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:31:51 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Much ado about nothing - this will all go smoothly in the end.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556774 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556774 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:07 -0800 Comment by But Frank Closing the gun show loophole has nothing to do with whether anyone "oughta have a right to a gun." It merely prevents me from exercising my right to buy a gun in a way that's completely untraceable and unaccountable.

]]> But Frank http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556809 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:48:18 -0800 Comment by Mr. X But pursuing gun control could well turn some of those emerging blue counties red again in the next election (think South Snohomish/North Pierce/Spokane/etc) - make no mistake about it.

Frank is not wrong on this one.

]]> Mr. X http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556812 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556812 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:50:26 -0800 Comment by Danny D. This specific issue is secondary to the underlying problem: Frank Chopp is a spineless wimp.

He's a pathetic leader for the Dems and an embarrassment to his district. What's the value of charisma, institutional knowledge, and bi-partisan savvy if you never make a touchdown for your own team?

"When I’m trying to get a political agenda done, which is very progressive, I need to have a unified caucus."

Very progressive...? I can't think of many progressive bills that Frank hasn't personally sought to quash, in the name of helping his own party, of course.

Right now it just looks like he is playing king of the hill with his base and hoping the GOP doesn't catch a peek. The 45th district and The Stranger ought to mobilize Frank’s ass out of the legislature and back to Tully’s, the only place he gets anything done.

PS – I wouldn’t normally criticize my own, but, the point is, with a 62-36 advantage we can’t lose. So grow a set, Frank!

]]> Danny D. http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556846 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556846 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:00:15 -0800 Comment by Danny D. 43rd Dirstict, my typo.

]]> Danny D. http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556850 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556850 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:06:06 -0800 Comment by Josh Feit Mr. X,
I understand Chopp's POV on this, and over-the-top gun control isn't a big issue for me. But these measures don't jar the 2nd Amendment and are serious issues for the SPD.

Seattle (and Seattle money) is a big reason the Democrats have such a big majority in Olympia. Kerlilowske and Seattle deserve respect on this.

]]> Josh Feit http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556852 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556852 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:07:01 -0800 Comment by Original Andrew Hello?

What about marriage equality or civil unions?

My would-be hubby is gonna be sweatin'.

We've been together since college and it's time to make it legal.

]]> Original Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556857 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556857 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:17:20 -0800 Comment by Gomez So I guess pedestrian safety isn't as high on his list and the City said it would be, huh?

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556874 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556874 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:07:43 -0800 Comment by Whacky I'll translate Chopp for you, Josh:
"No."

]]> Whacky http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556884 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c556884 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:49:53 -0800 Comment by Mrobvious Does anyone honestly believe either will make any difference in the crime rate? As if someone who wants a gun and find they can't at a gun show won't go out on the street and get one within an hour? Or that "assault weapons" (the word has no real meaning) are responsible for more than a tiny fraction of 1% of gun crimes. I say that as a non-gun-owner who is not fond of guns.

But this is simply for political show purposes, to demonstrate you're on the right side of the issue, even though the issue is of no real importance.

]]> Mrobvious http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c558025 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c558025 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:21:18 -0800 Comment by Cascadian Frankly, I want the Legislature to focus on anything but this. Gun control--even the more sensible proposals--is a losing issue that won't change a damn thing if it passes except losing votes to the Republicans.

]]> Cascadian http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c558473 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c558473 Politics Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:11:12 -0800 Comment by uf911 It sounds like Rep. Chopp is taking a pragmatic approach towards focusing on a specific legislative agenda, and he's even willing to go on the record about it. Kudos for honesty.

I've had a concealed carry permit for over a year, but haven't had a gun small enough to actually carry downtown. I'm interested in buying a small-ish pistol, but didn't realize we have a lenient gun show background verfication regime. Thanks, Stranger, for the heads up - I'll have to check out the local gun show scene.

j

]]> uf911 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c575254 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/12/and_the_nonimpact_of_1#c575254 Politics Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:16:37 -0800