Comments on Abercrombie & Fitch: So Gay, Not So Pro-Gay

Can I still keep their catalog next to the toilet?

When it became apparent that A&F was the new Tommy Hilfiger I stopped shopping there. I'm not going to pay that much money to be someone's walking advertisement.

A&F can (continue to) SUCK MY CULO, CHICA!

news of the A&F’s anti-gay business policies

Uh, so what are these anti-gay business policies, boss? Or is HRC just bitching out about the exposed-nips ads?

I maintain that the best way to destroy Abercrombie & Fitch is to circulate this profile of its CEO among its key demographic [salon.com]

He sounds so fantastically creepy that it might just break through the advertising haze.

You've touched on something that drives me just completely insane, Dan. When I was a teen fag in the early eighties, there were two choices for homos: either you were out of the closet, or you were deeply closeted. Now, there is a third option, this completely fucked-up, homophobic state of limbo, the game of "passing" which you describe. These twerps enjoy all the gains made for them by the hard work of the fully-out homos who came before them, while looking down on those who are completely out and "gay-acting". The men-seeking-men section of craigslist is rife with this particular pathology.

jonny278

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but A & F's clothes are just flat out ugly. Everyone looks better without them. The models are totally fuckable, but the clothes? Ratty and used looking right off the shelf, and not in a good way but a "hey isn't it time we gave this to Goodwill" way. No wonder the models are naked.

And Dan is reading too much into the motivation to purchase said ugly rags. It's just mindless consumerism and fad power.

True A&F story. I live in Chicago. One night I got invited out to a friend's birthday party which was mainly barhopping in Lincoln Park frat bars and Lakeview gay bars. So I headed out with my own homemade Abercrombie shirt: plain white tee with the Abercrombie logo inked across my chest with a black sharpie. The best part was how few people got the joke. Mostly I got nasty stares and overheard comments like, "ooh, he's so ghetto. he just wrote that on his shirt."

Casey, do you have a picture of yourself in that shirt? I'd love to see it—and post it. Send it to editor@thestranger.com.

DS: this is the kind of post that makes me so, so happy that you're blogging now

The article is total bs designed for those certain gay men who overthink being gay. think about it.....since we are born the way that we are....we don't have to necessarily wear certain brands of clothes or speak in a certain way to be gay. there is some stupid notion in this country that gay men all have to wear certain kinds of clothes, hate sports, and be totally passive airheaded doormats. Think about it, there are straight women athletes and straight women who are tougher than their straight male counterparts. So, if gay men are actually females on the inside then who is to say that they are not those types of females. I call these types of gay men "ronnie krays" which is what I am (Ronnie Kray being a gay british gangster who once shot a straight rival for calling him a fat poof. Gay men in america should study Ronnie and Reggie Kray and learn how to actually survive with dignity and be a gay man who gets respect rather than being a weak fruit.

No self-respecting PERSON would shop at A&F. Even before the HRC report came out we all knew about the racist hiring policies, and their stupid t-shirts. I mentor a 12 year old Black girl. She can't afford A&F, but she desperately wants a t-shirt. Sadly, the most popular A&F t-shirt at her mostly white school reads, "I had a nighmare I was a brunette." Ick!

What's with all this "we" stuff? I don't wear A&F. And hopefully, at your age, neither do you.

Plus you can't just say this company has "anti-gay business practices" without detailing what those practices are--unless you got your journalistm degree at McDonalds or something. You don't like the "lifestyle" stuff put over in A&F marketing materials--obviously, you don't--but who cares? Give us details and facts.

why anyone would want to be a walking billboard for ANY company, i haven't the slightest clue. especially a company like A&F, who not only treats gay guys like shit, but also women. how degrading is that shit?!

Go read the Q&A section at Aberzombie.com. So damn funny and the lawsuit info is even funnier.

coco, you *could* click on the link to the HRC report. or, just bitch and moan some more.

Why hasn't Proud Gay Republican weighed in on this? Seems right up his alley.

Wow. Those ads are *gay.* I thought you were joking.

Up in the north, A&F isn't quite as pervasive yet, but it's getting there, opening stores this year. A friend of mine, otherwise a nice girl, works at one. After being transferred to the new flagship store downtown, the commute became easier, but she expressed disgust at how "ugly" her co-workers were.

Note: Read the PDF. It has scores, but no details.

I call A & F 'Alabaster & Rich'

gloria, if you go through the pamphlet, it explains how you get high scores or low scores.

Hmm. Well, from what I've read, there is the colour code explanation, which is vaguely defined.

The Q&A mentions what is evaluated -- e.g. benefits, ad practises, etc. -- but how do we know where a company made a misstep? We know they're doing somewhat badly, but *what* exactly is A&F doing or not doing?

Note: I just looked on their site, which is listed in the pamphlet. A&F's profile includes an evaluation, but it's all yes or no and feels a little barebones to me. Kinda tame. From the scandalized sounds being made, I figured it'd be something meaty.

i'm a fag and of course i've never worn that ill-made sweatshop garbage! i'm not a victim of advertising!

i always found it bizarre that all the jocks at my suburban high school were into a&f when the advertising to me screamed "hot young gay men, look here!"
apparently they saw nothing unusual about undressing in a dressing room with a giant picture of a muscular man in his underwear staring down at them..