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It just warms the very bottom of my renter-hating scrooge-loving DSA-worshipping monorail-hating heart ...

Oh, wait, no, that's bizarro Will in Seattle speaking.

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 14, 2006 4:11 PM
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You get $2,000 of you are on the poverty line, but you get NOTHING if you don't speak up for your rights as a tenant. Condo developers will keep mum about the cash unless you know your rights.

Posted by condo craze | November 14, 2006 4:11 PM
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Jesus people... Who can really live on 27, 250? I know trying to move on THAT kind of salary will leave you with nothing, if that.

Good luck my fellow poor people.

Posted by sugar | November 14, 2006 4:25 PM
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Um, grad students. You don't think we pay them much more than that, do you?

Posted by Will in Seattle | November 14, 2006 5:41 PM
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It's more like developers ripping off residents to the tune of $250K a head for outdated, glorified apartments. Meanwhile, apartments are disappearing, no affordable ones are popping up to replace them, the prices keep going up and up, and no one cares.

I'm glad you're at least addressing this issue, ECB. And yes, it's a serious problem.

Posted by Gomez | November 14, 2006 5:57 PM
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Give me a break. Preserving nice buildings should be a much higher priority than ensuring we have cheap rentable apartments. If you want zillions of cheap, ugly buildings with low rent and no character, then move to Kent.

Posted by Sean | November 14, 2006 7:36 PM
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Hey guys, Ben is an old friend of mine. He is really the kindest and most generous guy you could ever hope to meet.

Posted by Jim Demetre | November 14, 2006 9:11 PM
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This reads more like a Nicole Brodeur column than a Slog post. Yes, the set of circumstances is not ideal for everyone, and yes, the reason it's still happening is because the alternatives - rent control, negative population growth, house value depreciation - are much, much worse.

As with a Brodeur column, after suitable hand-wringing, by the end we realize there's still no practical solution.

Posted by Troy | November 14, 2006 10:59 PM
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One reason that condo conversions are popular is that it allows developers to avoid the near inevitable lawsuits that come with building new condominiums. Condominium associations often sue developers, builders and architects over construction flaws. It is so common that many developers can't get insurance or financing for new condominium construction. However, there is a seven year statute of limitations on lawsuits related to construction flaws. Many developers build new apartments, rent them for seven years and then convert to condominiums. It's planned from the beginning. I wouldn't have a problem with this practice if developers were up front about it - if they explained to new tenants that they were planning to convert to condominiums in the future.

Posted by Sstarr | November 15, 2006 8:31 AM
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Defend your point with some reasoning, Sean, or your statement comes across as nothing more than a troll. What does 'preserving nice buildings' matter enough to deprive renters of affordable housing?

Posted by Gomez | November 15, 2006 9:33 AM
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House value depreciation is coming, Troy, and it doesn't have a damn thing to do with population, jobs or rent control.

In case you haven't bothered to think about it, Seattle is very obviously in the middle of a credit-fueled housing bubble. In a market with historical annual increases of less than 3%, it doesn't take a genius to realize that year-over-year gains of 15% are irrational and unsustainable.

I don't blame developers for leaping at the chance to make some easy money -- I blame the city for not stopping their blatantly greedy behavior in order to protect the public interest.

Posted by A Nony Mouse | November 15, 2006 2:32 PM

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