When Mondays started, I was really excited about "Studio 60" and wary of "Heroes"...how ironic that "Heroes" is my new favorite show, and I find myself watching reruns of "Six Feet Under" instead of "Studio 60"?
i'm going to go out on a limb and say that i thought that last night's episode of studio 60 was actually better than the earlier ones. still nowhere near the west wing, but better. ok. now everyone can attack my horrible taste.
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"Heroes" is awesome. Awesome!
So, i;m not all caught up on these, but is it ever supposed to be funny? because from what I've seen the show contains no humour at all. Which is a bit odd, it being about SNL, but I guess adds realism, it being about SNL.
I'm sad for Studio 60. I loved the Sorkin years of West Wing and I had such high hopes for 60.
Now, Ugly Betty is freakin' awesome!
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I live in fear that somehow Heroes will be spoiled by some heretofore unknown plot twist that will ruin the show, that is how much I love it.
David, your headline for this post is funnier and smarter than a Tivo full of Studio 60 *and* SNL.
Wow, I'm really glad to see all the Heroes props. I've been in secret Heroes shame these last few weeks, and still think it has an annoying, sticky NBCish quality to it, but I'm addicted. NO LONGER SILENT!!!
yeah, heroes is really great. s60, not so much. and last night's was worse than usual. i'm not really sure what can be done to fix it, but it's a sad waste of some pretty good actors. nate cordry = super cute.
Studio 60 alert! That ship is sinking so fast. Last night's episode made me think it's time to part.
Dear Heroes worshippers: You are not alone. Everywhere I turn, people are telling me how awesome it is—trustworthy people.
So here's my question: As someone who's not seen the show and remains vaguely uneasy with superhero themes, can you tell me something that will help me understand a bit of why this show's worth my time?
Or should I just take the evidence of the cumulative praise and watch the damn thing myself?
Let's do both.
It has bad dialogue, hot actors, a multi-threaded story, special effects, some blodd and gore, and a mystery (that has already had promising leads develop - take that "Lost!").
The acting is good (not Emmy-level, but Buffy, Angel, or X-Files level) and I trust anything that doesn't try to explain things too much - it just is.
I love it!
Also, thank you for that, Andrew and Geoff.
Molly Abrams remains grievously underquoted.
Heroes has been moving slowly but it's picked up steam every episode as the actors have become more comfortable in their roles.
I was hoping CEG (Creepy Eyeglasses Guy) would snuff Rapey McQuarterback last night but his solution was far better. Maybe he's not the bastion of evil that the NBC PR Department has made him out to be?
I enjoy both shows. Does that mean there's something wrong with me?
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What makes you uneasy with superhero themes, David?
Soupytwist is right on, David. It's basically custom designed to bring the "Deal or No Deal" crowd later into Primetime, and it's got as much pat, syrup-y mass market appeal as you might assume that would entail. But watch it one time and you're sucked into the twisting plot. And the business with the cheerleader is like Twin Peaks Lite; not nearly as handsomely filmed but way more entertaining.
Maybe I don't watch enough TV, but how is it exactly that "Confused elderly comedian who thinks he’s coming to work to write for Dick Van Dyke with Rose Marie again?" qualifies as a "tired old plotline"???
It's more in the feeling of the thing--the doddering elder craftsman who mysteriously appears to teach the young'uns a little something about life and love, while allowing the young stars the opportunity to show that they listen and sometimes nod sympathetically when old people talk...being nice to a doddering oldster is the human equivalent of having your film protagonist pet a puppy—an easy speedway into the audience's heart, allegedly...
But you're right, out of context, the "confused elderly comedian who thinks he’s coming to work to write for Dick Van Dyke with Rose Marie again" sounds like an amazingly innovative plot twist, one I'd love to see on, say, The King of Queens.
Don't forget the real best show on TV: Veronica Mars!
"30 Rock" is where it's at! Too bad it's already cancelled. Let's face it guys, network TV bites!!!
Gidge, you're not alone. I thought last night's episode of "Studio 60" was an improvement over the previous week. David makes some good points about the Wallach bit, but I liked the D.L. Hughley stuff (plus, he finally got to do some actual acting). "Heroes" has grown on me--& it's so nice to see Mr. Natalie Maines (Adrian Pasdar) back on TV! For my money, "Veronica Mars" got off to a shaky start, but hit its stride with the second episode. So glad Weevil's got a job!
David, the appeal of Heroes, at least so far, is that those who have super-powers are using them for the sort of things normal people might be expected to use them for, instead of rushing out to fight crimes.
It won't last, of course, but it's fun while it does.
"30 Rock" is canceled??!!! That was an awesome show!
I'm quite certain "30 Rock" has not been cancelled. Or I found no confirmation to that effect. I've been enjoying it so far.
Some of Aaron Sorkin's bad habits have come back to roost with Studio 60, but I think he's more self-aware of the sketch show's questionable quality than people give credit for, and "I didn't realize we could use geometry" is an excellent line.
30 Rock has not been cancelled. In fact, it's getting moved to Thursday night and paired up with Scrubs for the 9-10pm slot. 20 Good Years, on the other hand...
You guys are nuts Studio 60 is great!
To all of you who are enjoying Studio 60, congrats! Your enjoying the best show on TV right now and that goes for the writing and the acting. If you don't like it then maybe you don't get it and in that case the shows not for you, but that's no reason to knock the show by saying it's poorly writen or that it's plot lines are weak. Its amazing how you can take one show that makes you do a little thinking a say that it's recycled televison and then turn around and tell me that Hero's (which requires no brain power to watch)is wonderful. They might be two completely different shows but by no means is Hero's original. From it's very, very slow character development to it's plot lines, this show has been done. Now don't get me wrong, I like the show a lot (I like Studio 60 better) but it's not because I don't know whats going to happen it's because I like to see that kind of story and I'm interested to see how this writer chooses to make it come to life. Showing the behind the scenes of a late night sketch comedy show is at least a little more original in it's concept and as far as the plot lines and character development, yes, just like Hero's it's been done before but every new show it going to have similar problems because there is only so many ways you can do it. It's in the second and third seasons where you start to see the origial plot lines and I can only hope and pray that both shows make it that far.
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