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Tuesday, September 12, 2006

Re: And What is This?

Posted by on September 12 at 10:08 AM

Hey Charles, what about gay men? Are they allowed to cry?

I had no idea what was making him cry, but no matter what the cause—a scolding from mommy, the death of his furry pet, humiliation from an older brother—nothing is bad enough, worthy enough for a young (or old) man (and I only speak for men) to cry about.

And what about butch lesbians? Or transgendered people? Your rule against male tears relies on a pretty out-dated conception of gender, and gender-roles.

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It's ok for fags to cry...

Thanks, Mike. I thought I was going to have to stop going to the opera!

Straight or Gay, its better to shed a few tears, then punch things. Crying and punching are responses to extreme emotions... one gets things wet, the other damages property and could, depending on who, how, what you punch could be illegal.

Hey eli, sounds like somebody hasn't been doing their S.C.U.M. Manifesto reading lately.

The male is completely egocentric, trapped inside himself, incapable of empathizing or identifying with others, or love, friendship, affection of tenderness. He is a completely isolated unit, incapable of rapport with anyone. His responses are entirely visceral, not cerebral; his intelligence is a mere tool in the services of his drives and needs; he is incapable of mental passion, mental interaction; he can’t relate to anything other than his own physical sensations. He is a half-dead, unresponsive lump, incapable of giving or receiving pleasure or happiness; consequently, he is at best an utter bore, an inoffensive blob, since only those capable of absorption in others can be charming. He is trapped in a twilight zone halfway between humans and apes, and is far worse off than the apes because, unlike the apes, he is capable of a large array of negative feelings — hate, jealousy, contempt, disgust, guilt, shame, doubt — and moreover, he is aware of what he is and what he isn’t.
hence, they can't cry. if they cry they're just attempting to be the woman that they can never be.
The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.
Or something. I don't know, I think I'm trying to be too cerebral about this. I should just go back to being "a walking dildo."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH... crying on the inside...

How about clowns? Seems like CM should make an exception for the tears of a clown.

Tramuta in lazzi lo spasmo ed il pianto;
in una smorfia il singhiozzo e 'l dolor...
Ridi, Pagliaccio, sul tuo amore infranto,
ridi del duol che t'avvelena il cor!

What a terribly cruel man you are CM to want to put a clown through all that.

Eli, I'd reckommend responding to the sheer jackassery of Charles' post before getting into the gender stuff.

Ask him if he thinks it's alright for women to breastfeed in public...

eli, i need to think about this. give me a month.

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