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Friday, August 4, 2006

Re: McGavick Defies Kansans: He Wants to Teach the “Theory”

Posted by on August 4 at 12:39 PM

I posted this in the comments to Josh’s post, but I’m going to pull it up here. McGavick is not, I repeat, NOT being reasonable on this ID issue. In fact, his language closely approximates the “teach the controversy” tactic advanced by the Dover school district (whose ID advocacy was adroitly bitch-slapped by Judge Jones in late 2005) and the Kansas Board of Education, before voters were so humiliated they threw the bums out.

In the comments below, I said:

Pardon my vehemence, but I think you guys are being extremely naive. Any gesture toward “compet[ing]” beliefs, or teaching “all the different theories” on a national level will—and has been—taken by local school boards as an OK to teach intelligent design as a scientific theory that undermines evolution. This it is not. No reference to creationism belongs in the high school science classroom, except possibly as an outdated point of view that Lamarck, Darwin, et al, had to confront when introducing their explanations of how species change over time. ID is an obfuscating trick, and any discussion of its merit (or decided lack thereof) entails the use of purposefully obscure concepts in information theory, biochemistry, etc. High school students are not equipped to deal in that kind of critique, and they shouldn’t be invited to.

Let me remind you that Santorum’s infamous amendment to No Child Left Behind used conciliatory language too: “that good science education should prepare students to distinguish the data or testable theories of science from philosophical or religious claims that are made in the name of science. Where biological evolution is taught, the curriculum should help students to understand why this subject generates so much continuing controversy, and prepare them to be informed participants in public discussions.” The part I bolded looks nice, huh? Everyone can get on board with that. Unfortunately, Santorum would consider ID “a testable theory of science”—that’s exactly how it’s promoted—whereas anyone who understands the definition of a scientific theory would disagree.

The effect of this kind of legislation, were it mandated rather than being expressed as the “sense of the Senate” (a non-binding resolution) would be to present evolution as a theory in crisis—which it is not. As a theory that “generates so much continuing controversy” within the scientific community—which it does not.

My standard high school biology text—mid ’90s, Catholic school—did not even touch on creationism. There’s no reason why it should have. It would have been a distraction from learning the scientific method (which ID blatantly flouts) and the current understanding of Darwin’s theory of natural selection, which was what I was there to do.


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Honestly, I don't see how Santorum's or McGavick's language supports their cause. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist, but I think it's a dangerous play on their part and can easily come back to bite them on the ass because (like Annie says) ID isn't a testable hypothesis (bye Santorum), and like I said earlier, it sure as hell isn't a theory (bye McGavick). If the current language doesn't limit science education to testable hypotheses and theories, then I think now there's more room to push in ID and other non-scientific alternatives to evolution than there would be if we made such limitations.

But again, I could be an optimist.

You're an optimist. Not enough people understand science, or don't want to.

It's the concept of faith that makes rational argument of this topic impossible.

Faith empowers believers to be believers without any tangible proof of their beliefs. It's why Carl Everett is able to believe dinosaurs are fake. It's why Catholics believe the bread and wine are actually the body and blood of Christ. And it's why people blow themselves up in restaurants expecting 50 virgins to be waiting for them on the other side.

To those who fervently believe in Intelligent Design, their faith in the concept is just as good as the scientific evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution.

it's not faith to believe something written down on a paper napkin at a brainstorming session of a Seattle "institute" created to push fake agendas.

Republicans are in the business lately of labeling cultural controversies as scientific controversies (after having eagerly promoted the cultural controversies to boot). They constantly conflate belief and opinion with the scientific community's peer-reviewed theoretical work.

I'm with Annie, in that any response to this kind of language concedes the Lakoffian "frame" to our new know-nothing party. It's important NOT to tolerantly deflect the "discussion of controversy" into other classrooms because that implies there's something wrong with how things are taught currently. It's just a capitulation to implicit social bullying.

Christians believe god created the earth and evolution is a myth, Jews believe god gave them Israel and bacon bits are an abomination. Religious people are all idiots.

And yet somehow my home state keeps pushing back against attempts to stop evolution education. Hell, if KANSAS isn't buying that creationism and ID is science, why the hell can't the rest of the country? Thus, my optimism (though I grant you that people are more ignorant and apathetic with respect to science than I think they should be).

Hmm. This reminds me of something? What is it? Oh, yeah, Copernicus and his successor Gallileo. See, there are problems when religious ideology is put before scientific discovery.

So when someone from the right says they want all points of view expressed and to hear all the valid evidence and weight it accordingly, they really mean they want to teach flat-earth superstition.

But when someone from the left says we should teach Darwinism as unquestioned fact and not allow any alternate point of view to be mentioned except when we are assured that it will be denounced as false, they really mean they want to teach the use of reason and a true understanding of science.

And when an elenchos says, OK I see what you mean, that's a good point, it really means I'm calling bullshit.

Nobody in the history of the world has ever said that Darwinism is an unquestioned fact.

Anyway, I was taught an alternative version of Evolution in school called Punctuated Equillibrium, which is rather different from regular, ol' Natural Selection. And hey, it has a basis in reality too!

"Anyway, I was taught an alternative version of Evolution in school called Punctuated Equillibrium, which is rather different from regular, ol' Natural Selection."


Not at all. Random mutation plus natural selection are the operative mechanisms in both PE and gradualist theories of evolution.

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