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Wednesday, August 2, 2006

My Kind of 9/11 Conspiracy Theory

Posted by on August 2 at 10:45 AM

A reader pointed me to this fascinating Washington Post article about tension between the 9/11 Commission and some of its Defense Department witnesses.

Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon’s initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate.

Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said.

This is awesome because it shows how aggressive the 9/11 Commission was in trying to cut through fradulent propaganda; and, most deliciously from my perspective, that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists have it ass-backwards.

As I have previously speculated, it seems much more plausible to me that any lying the government did about its actions in response to the terror attacks was probably an attempt to cover their asses and make it seem like they had some degree of control over the situation, despite all evidence to the contrary.

Here’s the money quote:

For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington.

In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD’s Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft — American Airlines Flight 11 — long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.

Now, mes petits conspiracy theorists, do you think that the government lied about trying to mitigate the situation because they wanted to hide the fact that they were secretly in charge of the situation? This is getting more and more convoluted. I say, Occam’s Razor, darlings. If it looks like the government fucked up, they probably did.


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Just to be devil's advocate: One prominent conspiracy theory (and I think one of the more plausible ones) is that elements somewhere in the chain of command caught wind of the hijacker's plot and simply allowed it to happen. In such a scenario it would not be necessary to cover up all the string-pulling that would be involved in a government-orchestrated attack, only to cover up the failure to adequately address a known threat.

In other words, the bungled handling of the situation could have been a mixture of a little bit of deliberate negligence and a lot of just plain old negligence.

Not saying that's what happened, but it's certainly more plausible than any "the Trilateral commission orchestrated the whole thing using guided missiles" explanation.

Although I recognize this could also be a case that calls for the application of Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

I agree with the advocate for the devil. Richard Clarke's Ignored... Bin Laden's Determined to Strike in US... Ashcroft's Not Flying Commercially... Cheney's Terrorism Task Force Never Meets... Pearl Harbor 2.

Pearl Harbor 2, which is what the neo-con cabal of the Project for the New American Century wanted.

There was/is a great discussion of this today in the 3rd and 4th hours hours of the Randy Rhodes show. You can get the podcast off airamericaradio.com

I'm pretty sure the Feds orchestrated the whole thing :P

It was the aliens from mars that came undercover due to the middle east crisis. The aliens did it to distract earth from a martian colony. sheeeshh... its all so obvious.

HELLLO, MC FLY !!! HELLO ??!!???

I don't understand the hostility toward conspiracy theorists. I don't consider myself one, but I do believe that there are many things that have been answered unsatisfactorily. Namely the collapse of the three towers. Since everyone seems to be an expert, perhaps you can help me out.

1. Supposedly the jet fuel is to blame for intensifying the fires that weakened the steel supports. Then why did WTC 7 collapse? There was no jet fuel, and there were only fires on 2 floors.
2. The smoke coming out of both towers was black. That indicates that a fire is suffocating, and therefore, isn't very hot.
3. Steel doesn't melt until 1500 C., and loses about half its strength at 650 C. The maximum heat (that's maximum) jet fuel burns at is 825 C.
4. If you time the collapse of the buildings, it's freefall speed. Wouldn't the floors pancaking cause at least some friction? Wouldn't the tops of the buildings at least shift toward the weakest side before collapse?
5. You saw the footage. The planes hit from the side (obviously). Why did both buildings collapse straight down? Why didn't they tip over?

Anyway, I don't think the administration was behind it, I don't think Flight 93 was shot down, but I do think that the building collapses have not been explained. Even the 9-11 commission report says that their explanation on WTC 7 only has a low probability.

You seem to think that conspiracy theorists are motivated solely out of insanity or blind hatred for the administration. I would argue that many of them (us) simply feel that based on evidence available, the official story doesn't add up. I'll change my tune if these and other valid questions are addressed. But you'll just keep calling us crackpots. I seem to recall that everyone but a few crackpots thought Iraq had WMD before the war, too.

Sleestak, I agree with most of what you wrote. I think you were mistaken, though, when you wrote:

Even the 9-11 commission report says that their explanation on WTC 7 only has a low probability.

The 9/11 Commission Report doesn't mention the collapse of building 7. (Search that document for "7 WTC" to find all five references to it.)

Chapter 5 of FEMA's World Trade Center Building Performance Study states (in "5.7 Observations and Findings"):

The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue.

[I'm breaking up the rest of this since Slog only allows two links
per comment.]

See the rest of the FEMA report and this annotated version of it.

The National Construction Safety Team Act (HR 4687), enacted on October 1, 2002, mandated that NIST investigate the collapses of the WTC towers. NIST chose to issue a separate report for building 7. That report was originally due in mid-2005, but has been postponed several times. They have since contracted with a private firm (Applied Research Associates, Inc., of Albuquerque, New Mexico, under solicitation number SB1341-06-Q-0186) to "create detailed floor analyses" that will "determine likely modes of failure for Floors 8 to 46 due to failure of one or more supporting columns (at one or more locations)."

NIST states that no steel was recovered from building 7 so "properties for steel used in its construction were estimated based on literature and contemporaneous documents."

Most of the evidence of these horrible crimes commited against our nation has been destroyed.

Also, Sleestak wrote:

Wouldn't the tops of the buildings at least shift toward the weakest side before collapse?

The floors above the impact zone of the each tower did tilt at first, before dropping straight down into a pile of rubble. The floors of these buildings supposedly "pancaked" in succession onto those below. How could that have happened if 30 or so of them first tilted 8 degrees as one big block? This tilt is described by NIST in NCSTAR 1-6 and discussed at length here.

Thanks for the replies. I'll check into the facts on WTC 7, but from the replies, it seems like I have my facts wrong on that one, so I'll concede that point (for now).

However, with regard to WTC 1 and 2, watch the videos again. You would think that they would have started collapsing from the are around the impact zone. How is it that the buildings started collapsing from the top?

Good question, Sleestak.

How do we get other people to inform themselves and ask such questions without being written off as lunatics in the process? I'm quite a skeptic, and I'm not used to receiving the kind of treatment that Annie is dishing out around here.

When the attack occurred, I felt about as angry and threatened as anyone. Soon after, I read an article that began:

BOSTON (Reuters) - Investigators in Boston found a copy of the Koran, a videotape on how to fly commercial jets and a fuel consumption calculator in a pair of bags meant for American Airlines Flight 11, which crashed into the World Trade Center on Tuesday, the Boston Globe reported on Wednesday.

I thought, "This is ridiculous. We're supposed to think some terrorists were carrying around a copy of Learn to Fly Commercial Jets in 21 Days on their big day?"

I didn't really even consider questioning what happened on 9/11 until about a year ago, when a guy named Morgan Reynolds was in the news for questioning the official story. When I looked into it a little bit, though, I decided that Reynolds didn't make much sense, and I didn't think any more about it until a couple months ago when a trusted friend presented me with some of his findings.

Now I'm convinced that we need to go back and look at this event with a critical eye. The problem is, when I try to get people to do so -- friends and family, even -- I generally run into one of three different responses: 1) "You just want to blame everything on Bush, don't you? Well, I guess I'm just not into conspiracy theories like you are," 2) "The whole thing is so terrible, I really don't want to think about it," or 3) "Well of course. Are you surprised? Look at all the bad things we've done in the past. Ho-hum."

If there has been a coverup of the events surrounding the 9/11 attacks, we have a responsibility to get to the bottom of it. That a Stranger writer is comfortable standing behind the Bush administration and hurling insults at anyone who dares to question the party line is an indication of what we're up against.

I think Annie's point, with which I agree, is that if there's any conspiracy/cover up by the government, it's that gov't officials tried to cover up their own ineptitude, not that they're covering up their own diabolical plot to take down the WTC towers themselves.

As for the "let it happen" conspiracy, I think it's sort of true. I don't think Cheney et al. intentionally let it happen, but they were at least criminally negligent in failing to pursue Al Qaeda and terrorism (instead focusing on pet-project Iraq and taking maximum vacation time).

Check out this take on the Washington Post article that Annie cited.

Here's a quote from it (links omitted because of Slog's two-links-per-comment policy, and emphasis added):

But what the Washington Post article, and Senator Dayton, fail to mention is that 5 or more war games were being conducted by several U.S. defense agencies, including:

• At least one "live fly" exercise using REAL planes

• At least one "plane into building" exercise

• Injection of false radar "blips" onto the screens of air traffic controllers

• Monitoring of the exercises and the 9/11 events by Vice President Dick Cheney.

Indeed, Secretary of Transportation Norm Minetta testified to the 9/11 Commission that Cheney monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon, and was in charge of the military's (non) response to flight 77.

So the Washington Post article completely misses the other half of the story: that the dedicated rank-and-file personnel at Norad were misled, intentionally, by the planners of 9/11. Specifically, the good and dedicated lower-level military people were confused by the events of 9/11 because 9/11 occurred at the same time as the multiple war games with their live fly exercises, plane into building scenarios, false radar inserts, and apparent interference by Cheney.

The prevailing spin from the Washington Post article and the related Vanity Fair article is that Norad lie to the Commission simply to cover up its incompetence on 9/11.

But stop and think about it for one minute. Is it more likely that a government agency would lie to an official government commission simply to cover up incompetence? Or to hide classified information regarding 5 military war games occuring that day, and the the interference which those war games caused with FAA and Norad's normal response to hijackings? Remember that this administration routinely lies, and in fact authorized governmental agencies to lie about 9/11.

Sound sensible? Which seems more likely?

There was/is a great discussion of this today in the 3rd and 4th hours hours of the Randy Rhodes show.

Here's an MP3 of the full 9/11 segment from the August 2 show.

it is hard to wake up from sleep of unconcioussnes only to discover that "american dream" is a nightmare and the hitlerian reptiles are in control and all this nonsense talk about democracy only makes it all look like a bad holywood film where the "good cowboys are exterminating the savage indians".......

and by the way do you remember one of your greatest revolutionaries, Timothy Leary, who in the beginning of the 60ties wrote, that, the worst of what an average person could imagine about the activities of us gestapo-wermacht-luftwafe combination woulkd be hardly the top of an iceberg, and you are civilizingly checking if you have been misleaded?
wake up and tear down the tyranic establishement NOW cause tomorow will
be too late just like our biosfere

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