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Sunday, July 23, 2006

Lefty Bartenders of Moses Lake, WA Unite!

Posted by on July 23 at 2:18 AM

I was in Moses Lake, WA. yesterday. Moses Lake is about 2-and-a-half hours from Seattle on I-90. I was in Moses Lake because Mike McGavick, the former Safeco Insurance CEO-turned-U.S. Senate candidate for the GOP, was doing a stop on his “Open Mike” tour there. I wanted to watch McGavick in campaign mode east of the Cascades.

Moses Lake is in Grant County, which went 69.6% for Bush in 2004, and voted to repeal the gas tax by 61%. About 16% of the people live below the poverty line, as opposed to about 9.4% in King County. It’s a big agriculture town, loaded with Mexican restaurants, motels, a couple of bars, and some bartenders that don’t seem to agree much with the Republican patrons.

At the end of the day, I ended up at a place called Sporty’s Steakhouse, across the drag from the Pizza Hut, talking to a 28-year-old self-described “cowboy” who makes $15 an hour, working a hay machine 90 hours a week. He told me he voted for Bush twice and believes the bible should guide public policy. He said gay marriage has to be illegal because it’s against the bible. He also said it would be wrong to legalize stem cell research because that’s “killing babies.” He also thought the U.N. was stupid. He was a big, blonde bearded guy, in a dirty gray baseball cap, who ran through this political check list with a drunk smile, as if he was nonchalantly cruising down the aisles of a 7-11 at 1am picking up a pizza, some beef jerky, a 12-pack of Mountain Dew, a burrito, and, oh, throwing in a box of hot tamales at the counter for good measure. He also said you can never vote against a President when the country’s at war. But then he said he loved Jon Stewart and the Colbert Report and that Democratic minority leader, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nevada) was his favorite politician. (?!?) He also said Bush was “the biggest liar of all the politicians,” but Bush is still good because “he stands by what he believes in.”

At that point, the 23-year-old bartender, a blonde woman named Michelle with a piercing just below her lower lip, jumped in: “Bush is retarded,” she said. “He’s uneducated. He’s just a rich kid.” The Bush/Reid fan, his name was Phil, then announced that he didn’t believe in condoms because they were birth control. “I don’t practice what I preach, though.”

“Well, that makes you a hypocrite,” the bar tender said. “Do you think the withdrawal method is against the bible?” She was on a roll. Then she said gay marriage was a civil rights issue. “Why withhold the right to start a family, just because someone is homosexual?” Finally, Phil, who confessed to being totally drunk (he was drinking it up because “some Mexican totaled my truck today”), told me the next time I run into him, he’ll probably “be a Democrat.”

I do wish Michelle and Phil had been at McGavick’s campaign stop. The “Open Mike” tour is McGavick’s folksy whistle-stop type campaign shtick where he rolls into town in a huge red rock tour bus and holds community meetings, taking questions from the audience for about an hour. Phil—talking about the withdrawal method in front of the crowd of mostly pot-bellied guys—would have been a marvel.

This “Open Mike”—with hot dogs and baked beans and Doritos and Gatorade—was in a park just off Exit 179, Moses Lake State Park, in the grassy southwest corner of town sloping down to the water. Later in the week, I’ll give a full report of the event, where I talked to several McGavick fans and hunkered down with Grant County Republican Chairman Tom Dent.

For now, I just want to Slog two kinda tense moments from my interview with McGavick today.

The first snippet is this: I played a quick round of that pop psychology game—where I would say something, and McGavick was supposed to say the first thing that came into his head.

Here it is:

JF: “I’m going to say something, and you say the first thing that comes to your mind. Ready. No one anticipated the breach of the levees.” MM: “Corruption.”

JF: “Hillary Rodham Clinton”
MM: “Smart.”

(A local Grant County Republican Precinct Committee Officer named Sherril Dormaier, was hovering nearby, and groaned: “Hillary? Corrupt.” More on her in a second.)

The game continued.

JF: “Seattle”
MM: “Home”

JF: “Paris Hilton’s singing career.”
MM: “No interest.”

JF: “$206,647.”
MM: “$206,647?” … (Honestly puzzled, McGavick looked over at his campaign manager.) “$206,647? … Um…Random.”

JF: “The insurance industry is your biggest contributor and that’s how much you’ve gotten from them.” (This is as of his first quarter campaign finance reports. 6 of his top 20 contributors are from the insurance industry.)

MM: “Random.” Then he suddenly locked me in a stare. “We have systems that we use to finance elections. But then we play this game that people own people? You can’t own me. I don’t care who you are.I don’t care who. you. are.”

This exchange wouldn’t have struck me as noteworthy, if there hadn’t been a similar snippet earlier in the interview, when, once again, McGavick got a little too icy, a little too quickly.

JF: Here in Washington state, the legislature passed a gay civil rights bill last spring. Do you support that bill?

MM: I have my hands full with federal issues. I do not and will not talk about state issues. Because, I’m working at the federal level. I’ve got my hands full.

JF: But surely you have an opinion…

MM: Again, you can look at my record at Safeco to understand that Safeco was a very welcoming employer and had very generous and very aggressively non-discriminatory benefits.

JF: So, Tim Eyman tried to get an initiative on the ballot to repeal [the gay civil rights bill]. Would you have voted for that?

MM: Again, I’ve been asked about the gas tax last year. I’m now being asked about this. I’ll be asked about other things. I do not comment on state initiatives because I’m focused on the federal issues. There’s plenty of issues to ask me about all day long. And by the way, the precedent for that was set by Scoop and Maggie. [Former Washington Senators Henry “Scoop” Jackson & Warren G. Magnuson].

JF: The precedent for not answering…[McGavick’s eyes darkened]… questions?…

MM: You can think it’s funny, I think it’s appropriate. As a senate leader working on federal issues to not wander into every state issue going on at the legislature…

JF: I’m just curious what you believe. I mean, you’re a Washingtonian. I’m a Washingtonian. This one issue is raging in our state. I want to know what you think about it.

MM: There are lots of issues that I will be able to affect as your Senator. So, let’s talk about them.

McGavick did go on to say, if the Washington state Supreme Court invalidated the state DOMA, it would give him a reason, if elected to the U.S. Senate, to vote for a Constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage.

As I was leaving the picnic, Sherril Dormaier, the Republican PCO from Grant County who didn’t like Hillary Clinton, called to me form her car and asked what paper I was with. She clearly wanted to be interviewed. So, I took out my notebook and asked her what she thought of McGavick. She got out of her car. She was wearing red pants and a white tank top. She had a thick mop of gray hair, a prominent gold tooth, and she was wearing a cross around her neck. She started out saying she thought McGavick had “integrity”, and that “he couldn’t be bought and sold.” She said “he would uphold the Constitution” and that “he believed in the rights of citizens.” Then she started quoting the bible to me, telling me she was pro-life and that “nations will be judged that don’t defend the innocent.” She told me that “our country was founded on God,” and that “we would be judged if we abandoned that.”

I reminded her that McGavick said he would have voted for the Senate’s recent stem cell research bill…And while McGavick said he believes in parental notification laws and outlawing partial birth abortions, he also said, beyond that, he was committed to choice. Dormaier said McGavick was “a little soft” on that, but he was closer to her principles than Maria Cantwell.

She then told me that “God has already started punishing us.” I asked her what she meant, and she said, “…the weather. Are people so dumb that they can’t see that?”

Indeed, there’s plenty to say about Saturday and McGavick’s stop in Moses Lake, from the folks like Dormaier at the picnic eating Doritos mashed up with baked beans in styrofoam bowls to McGavick’s campaign strategy to the Democrat from the local community college (Big Bend Community College) who crashed the event with a nervous anti-war question.

There was also another liberal bartender at a place called Michael’s on The Lake—the Soc restaurant in town with corner couches, a marble bar top, cozy couples, servers in matching peach shirts, khakis and brown aprons, and a deck overlooking the water. This bartender, his name was David, had worked for a non-profit in NYC for a year helping low-income students. The non-profit was run by Eliot Spitzer’s wife. He said that everyone he knew in Moses Lake had voted for Bush, and when he asked them why, they said because Bush made them “feel safe.” “They’re scared of everything because they never leave here,” he said.


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Josh,

Great entry. My wife says Seattle is 25 square miles surrounded by Reality. Unfortunately, your entry shows us who is living in Reality and what is important to them. MM's selectivity of what questions/queries he will respond to are indicative of those exec's who make the jump to politics. They forget that the "trustee" thing involves responding to all the questions.

btw,did you make it into Moses Lake, or did he part the water for you so that you could walk on through.

LTM

Mike's non-answers sound pretty typical of politicians. The idea seems to be avoid conflict, hide your true fascist tendencies, and then screw the people good when you get elected. Here's hoping Washington knows better than to send Mr. McGavick to the Senate. But let's say the Right Wing wins out and he gets elected (Hitler did! President Bush did!). If he votes to ban gay marriage in the Constitution, he craps on freedom, but he will never be able to lose the smell.

What strikes me there is that if you're running for the US senate and you think state issues don't matter, why would the Mass Supreme Court decisison on gay marriage matter less than the Washington State Supremes? If you believe the Republican bullshit about activist courts and you believe that it should be banned once some courts approve of it, wouldn't one court be enough? I mean by his logic, the only people who should vote for the Constitutional amendment are Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

I have a friend who went from high school in the Seattle area to Big Bend Community College in Moses Lake. I visited a couple of times and decided the only thing to do there was get drunk and pregnant.

We need better science education state-wide and more public airing of thoughts like God is punishing us with weather for our immoral lives.

Thanks for the report!

I very much liked your article. It shows a great snapshot of what people are thinking in Moses Lake. I am that local college kid that stoped by to hear Mike tip-toe around questions which are of great importance for us now. His plan on war in the way he answered the question to my understanding is to create a plan later that will magically heal are problems that we a facing now. I personally not a big fan of someone that has a sit and wait mentality. We need someone that can tackle problems with courage and quickness. Although Mike seems like a really nice guy and I did agree with him on some issues that affect us in eastern washington anyone can step up to a mike, but those that can perform are those that a ready to be in the spot light.

It never occurred to me that Republicans could start blaming the weather on God. I was sort of holding out some hope they could someday come around on global warming, but I guess not. I'd say it's time to start building dikes around the cities.


Josh, you went an entire day without asking him about Darcy? Stay on message!

The last time I was in Moses Lake, I went to Sporty's, where I watched two massively pregnant women split pitchers of beer and chain smoke. The next day I attended a wake at Michael's on the Lake, where I then watched someone spike their cocktail from a flask in their jacket. If these people represent "reality" or "average Americans", God help us all. I have tons of family in Moses Lake, and I love them to pieces, but I make it a point to avoid talking politics with them at all costs.

Every time i see God driving around in His giant SUV, with His long, white beard trailing out the open window, I just get so bummed out knowing that He's punishing us with global warming.

Also, how does He drive wearing sandals? That's so hard!

So, you interviewed a cowboy, two young bartenders, Mike McGavick, and Sherril Dormaier in Moses Lake, which is primarily a Mormon town. It's Washington's Boise, Idaho.

It would've been interesting to get a bishop's reaction to current events - that would have told you loads about the mindset of that part of Washington.

McGavick knows the only way he can win this race is to not take a position on anything.

You should have reminded McGavick that the gay rights issue is a federal issue, what with Congress discussing an anti-Gay Marriage Constitutional amendment.

Daniel K,
Totally. And I actually did ask McGavick about the anti-gay marriage Constitutional amendment in Congress. He said he'd support it if Massachusetts's gay marriage law ends up standing or, as I said in the post, if our own Washington State S.C. overturns our DOMA.
Basically, his position is this: Marriage should not be redefined to include same sex couples. He thinks it's an issue for state legislatures and not "activist" judges, and he plans to vote for a Constitutional amendment prohibiting gay marriage if state courts end up overruling state legislatures or state initiatives.

"My wife says Seattle is 25 square miles surrounded by Reality."

Try 25 square miles surrounded by fucking retards. Even the hicks back in my native Iowa aren't as stupid and mean as the average Washington State hick.

At least a lot of the ones on this side of the mountains are kinda slutty.

Thanks for talking to and reporting on a few of the 30% of the people in Moses Lake that didn't vote for Bush.

Josh,
If his "hands are too full with federal issues" to have an opinion about the gay civil rights bill Washington passed last year, then ask him whether he has an opinion about the federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act. Nail that weasel to the wall!

Let's not forget that 5th congressional district gave us the man: ...">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Foley
... surely not everyone who voted for Foley had kids grow up to be blind GW BUSH supporters?

The rest of Washington State is just inbred hicks, Red State types. I moved to Seattle from Manhattan and was warned to not venture far out of Seattle. I want to live among other Blue State people so I stay in Seattle.

...7-11 at 1am picking up a pizza, some beef jerky, a 12-pack of Mountain Dew, a burrito, and, oh, throwing in a box of hot tamales at the counter for good measure...


The burrito and tamales say it all for me. I've heard the Mexican farm workers all live East of the Cascades. If I want to smell burrito farts I know where to go. Moses Lake is the land of ignorant blue collar types and Mexican farm workers who can't even speak english, yuck. I hate those kinds of Red State people.

Wipe your shit on the Torah while looking at a postcard of piss christ. Religion is the cause of all the world's problems. The bible supposedly gave the Jews Israel, and the bible won't let gays marry. If we could burn all bibles and force Jews and Christians to become non-religious there'd be no more wars.

R.I.S., you seem to have some residual toilet-training issues, what with your obsession on conflating religion and excretory function. I suggest you see a professional about that.

As to McGavick, please tell me no one is actually SURPRISED that he's trying, very carefully, not to state an actual position on anything. That's the only strategy that works for Republicans running statewide in Washington. It damned near won that car salesman the governorship. Any Republican that actually is up-front about what they do and don't support is politically dead statewide, because the vast majority of Republican PCOs are just a little to the right of Attila the Hun, whereas the majority population of the state (sagebrush doesn't vote), pretty much bleeds indigo. If they state a right-wing position, they'll lose the election. If they state a position anywhere left of the lunatic fringe right-wing PCOs, they lose all their volunteers and most of their contributions, not to mention the wingnuts' votes.

The key for any Republican running statewide in Washington is to get some contrary Democrats and most of the independent voters - and we have a lot of them - to vote for you, along with your party faithful. The only way to do that is with a smiling, bland, noncomittal facade. Rossi very nearly pulled it off. McGavick is trying his best to copy that strategy.

Ahhh...to be a young, ignorant, know-it-all again.
But alas, I can only hope to be as smart as you. I do find it very curious that as you westsiders get older, you sell your over-priced condos and use the exorbitant proceeds to head to the eastside. Grow up.

I was born and raised in Moses Lake and a better snippet of its citizens "playing politics" could not have been better depicted. Sadly, kudos to you.
And to those who complain that he didn't interview any Moses Lake Democrat voters, here's news for you: they're all smoking pot in their moms' basements and talking about how "fucked up the world is, maaaaaan".

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Its Amazing how the Liberal state of Seattle judges the rest of the state east of the cascades. Having gone to school on the westside and living there for several years I have come to appreciate our "way of life" Because of your liberal ideas in Seattle the Healthcare system is in shambles. You suck all of the energy from our mighty Columbia river and treat us as second class citizens. You challenge Mike Mcgavik as if he is running for a seat on the Seattle council, when he will be dealing woith Federal issues. How about worring how you can replace the Sonics and Storm since you basically told them to kiss your ass!!! and that you rather have a techie party fill Key Arena then the SuperSonics --- Can you say Oklahoma??????????????????

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