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<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a</link>
<description>Reading the news this morning that those two missing U.S. soldiers have been found dead in Yusefiya, their bodies so &quot;brutally tortured&quot; that military officials are describing the discovery as simply &quot;their remains,&quot; I&apos;ve been wondering what connections will be made by those who write about the killings. In particular, I&apos;ve been wondering if a connection will be drawn between the torture and killing of these two U.S. soldiers, who were apparently in Al-Qaeda-wannabe custody before their deaths, and the widely reported torture and killing of suspected Al-Qaeda members in U.S. military custody. After all, one of the arguments for...</description>
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<title>Comment by someguy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Eli,</p>

<p>I think the real question is... Looking at the way captives have been slaughtered, should this not be a validation for the treatment by our military?</p>

<p>Quite frankly, were I a squad member of one of these recent US victim's, I would not think twice before shooting first and asking questions later.</p>]]></description>
<author>someguy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376867</link>
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<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:47:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by someguy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Eli,</p>

<p>I think the real question is... Looking at the way captives have been slaughtered, should this not be a validation for the treatment by our military?</p>

<p>Quite frankly, were I a squad member of one of these recent US victim's, I would not think twice before shooting first and asking questions later.</p>]]></description>
<author>someguy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376868</link>
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<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 11:48:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Retardlicans Suck</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>...and so we go back into the cycle where we were before Geneva - where dumbshits on both sides think that torture is the only way.</p>

<p>Fuck this stupid war. And all the assholes who voted for this retarded sociopath of a "leader" </p>]]></description>
<author>Retardlicans Suck</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376880</link>
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<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:03:37 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Longball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Tonight's Frontline, they're going to take Dick and Rummy behind the woodshed on deceiving us into the Iraq war. it airs at 10. I suspect Alberto will have PBS off the air for good by midnight. </p>]]></description>
<author>Longball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376924</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376924</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:33:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by 98117</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Someguy,<br />
The hypothetical reaction that you describe is precisely the alleged reaction of the marines currently under investigation for killing civilians in Haditha.</p>

<p>Was the Haditha incident referenced by those who claimed responsibility for the capture and killing of the US soldiers?</p>]]></description>
<author>98117</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376930</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376930</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:42:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Brendan Patrick</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Eli.</p>]]></description>
<author>Brendan Patrick</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376955</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c376955</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:19:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There's a big difference.<br />
The terrorists torture and kill -- ending innocent Iraqis and soldier's lives with a dull knife.<br />
The U.S. water boarded terrorists stop to a dirty bomb attack and prevent an 911 style attack on a Los Angeles skyscraper.<br />
That you all would even compare the two is totally disgusting.</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377209</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377209</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:48:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Longball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Umm, yeah Maple Leaf. Abu Grab Ass was all about averting a terror strike on LA. Thanks for enlightening us with your usual delusion. </p>]]></description>
<author>Longball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377237</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377237</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:59:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, war brings out the worst in the bad apples in our military. Still, there's another big difference - we punished those Abu Grab perpetrators and they are now in prison. Nice try Longball.</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377268</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377268</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:14:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by F.U.</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Mapleleaf, stop watching "24" and try to pass it off as fact or news...Jack Bauer is fiction you know.    </p>]]></description>
<author>F.U.</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377275</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377275</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:16:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'll have to check out '24' - never seen it. Nope, my info comes to me like it does to you: Associated Press, Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, Fox, etc. I'm a news hound so I strive for variety.</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377283</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377283</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:23:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Longball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Yes, war brings out the worst in the bad apples in our military."</p>

<p>Yep, one of the many reasons you don't go to war unless you have to. </p>

<p>Mapleleaf, if ignorence is bliss you are one happy mo fo. Do you really believe Abu Grhaib was an isolated incident? That kind of stuff is reported all over Iraq, Afganistan, Gitmo, etc. The real difference is that our electorate, (semi)free press and the like make it so our leaders feel slightly compelled to take token actions like sentencing a couple privates and non-coms to prison. There, problem solved! and now you and Fox news can rest your conscience that our torture and murder is much more humane and sensible than "theirs". </p>

<p>Here's one thing we will do to the enemy combatants that we didn't do to ourslelves... hold their leadership responsible for the attrocities they commit.</p>]]></description>
<author>Longball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377372</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377372</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:04:40 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>No, Abu Grhaib (thanks for looking up the spelling for our thread...;-)) is not an isolated incident - and there will be probably be more heartbreaking atrocities commited by coalition forces to come. But not nearly on the scale of what the terrorists are doing in Iraq to Iraqi citizens and our forces. Not that a comparison makes it right. It's a bloody mess from every angle.</p>

<p>Yes, we got to get out of there. But not until conditions on the ground are good enough so that Iraq's army and police can take over (at least Hillary agrees with that) - and we'll probably have some presense for 20 years to come in Iraq. </p>

<p>That's what most Iraqi's want, even though they hate our presense, the don't want total chaos.</p>

<p>It's like W is driving America in a Hummer through a raging river. Many said "No, don't Geroge" but he did anyway. Now we're starting to get stuck mid-stream. The loony left wants us to abandon the Hummer and run back to shore - certain drowning. But W's going to gun it and drive us to the other side. There's no choice.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377490</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377490</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:39:16 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. X</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Mapleleaf,</p>

<p>I'll be as sanguine about US atrocities as you are when the real perpetrators are in prison - Alberto Gonzalez, Dick Cheney, and George Bush.  Until then, go fuck yourself.</p>

<p>By the way, "collateral damage" from US bombings has killed as many or more Iraqis as "terrorists" (actually, those Iraqis who have the temerity to be ungrateful about our illegal invasion) have.  But little facts like that can't get in the way of your warmongering peabrain, I suppose....</p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. X</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377508</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377508</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:17:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Newshound, my ass</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"The U.S. water boarded terrorists stop to a dirty bomb attack and prevent an 911 style attack on a Los Angeles skyscraper."</p>

<p>How about some sort of references for these bullshit assertions, newshound.  And no, waterboarding an insane person and wasting thousands of man-hours on the false leads that were generated doesn't count.  Newshound, pfft...</p>]]></description>
<author>Newshound, my ass</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377511</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377511</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:23:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fighting Keyboard Poodle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Maple Leaf, you are a disgrace to the neighborhood you name yourself after - a neighborhood that was largely settled after WWII by veterans who knew how awful war was and how it should never be entered into lightly. </p>

<p>My dad was a WWII veteran, and he died last year knowing we had an idiot as president and that soldiers and innocents were dying for absolutely no reason. </p>

<p>Why don't you change your handle to Boeing Field or Harbor Island - something that would reflect your subservience to your corporate masters? </p>]]></description>
<author>Fighting Keyboard Poodle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377601</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377601</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:21:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>My oh my. At least I add some spice to the SLOG echo chamber.</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377992</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c377992</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:38:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. X</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Tell ya what, sporto.  Why don't you join up and add some spice to Iraq, instead?</p>

<p>Chickenhawk P.O.S....</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. X</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378001</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378001</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:45:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I know I'm stepping into it, but what is P.O.S.? </p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378123</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378123</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:43:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Geni</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>POS=Piece Of Shit.  Common shorthand on the Internets.</p>]]></description>
<author>Geni</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378300</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378300</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:07:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. X</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>POS = Mapleleaf</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. X</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378324</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378324</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:20:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by MapleLeaf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>mmmmmSmack!! That's my kiss on the cheek of Mr. X. A Bugs Bunny moment for me!</p>]]></description>
<author>MapleLeaf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378398</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/06/what_will_they_say_a#c378398</guid>
<category>Politics</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:13:41 -0800</pubDate>
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