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Monday, May 1, 2006

Tim Eyman and Washington Won’t Discriminate

Posted by on May 1 at 6:00 AM

[I posted this on Saturday morning, but I’m moving it up to today’s Slog.]

I didn’t use to hate Tim Eyman as much as other WA state liberals, but Eyman jumped my personal shark when he started campaigning against the state’s gay rights bill.

It wasn’t so much that supposedly libertarian Eyman was leading an effort repeal the rights; heck, there’s a principled libertarian argument against minority rights protections. But Eyman wasn’t making a libertarian argument. Eyman’s Referendum 65 would overturn the state’s gay rights bill, which protects gays and lesbians from discrimination in employment, housing, and credit. But most people are either for those piddling protections and/or assume they’re already in place. So Eyman, that lying sack of shit (LSOS for short), is campaigning for R-65 with this tag line: “No quotas, no preferential treatment, no gay marriage!”

Uh, the state’s gay rights bill doesn’t require quotas or preferential treatment, and it has nothing to do with gay marriage. And LSOS, a smart guy, knows that.

Jumping ahead: earlier this week LSOS announced to his supporters that Referendum 65 might not make it onto the ballot this November. From the PI:

Tim Eyman sent the e-mail to supporters and the media, saying that only 8,718 signatures have been gathered. He needs 112,440 valid voter signatures by June 7 to get Referendum 65 on the November ballot.

“It’s gut-check time,” Eyman said by phone Wednesday. “Do we really want this thing on the ballot? Yes or no.”

Some analysis of the numbers from Goldy:

To qualify for the ballot Eyman must collect 112,440 signatures by June 7, but not all these will be valid. The Secretary of State recommends a cushion of 25 percent, but let’s be generous and say Tim can get by with only 10 percent, for a minimum target of 124,000 signatures.

As of yesterday, Eyman claimed to have collected only 8,718 signatures, while hateful, nutcase preacher Joe Fuiten claimed to have another 2,900. That left them about 112,000 shy of their target with only 42 days before the deadline…

To qualify for the ballot, the R-65 campaign would have to collect about 2,700 signatures a day, 7 days a week, from now until June 7… not necessarily an impossible task if you can afford to hire an army of paid signature gatherers.

But Eyman doesn’t have the funds to hire an army, and so it looks like R-65 won’t be on the ballot.

Of course LSOS, being an LSOS, could by lying. He could have all the signatures he needs, and is only claiming to be way behind in order to shake some money out of his terrified, gay-hating supporters ("Oh, my god! Gays and lesbians with jobs, credit cards, and apartments! Run for your lives!”). He could also be attempting to discourage pro-gay volunteers and donors from getting involved in the effort to defeat Eyman's initiative.

Yeah, could be. But unlikely. More from Goldy:

I suppose it is possible this latest email could be a clever feint, but I fail to see the tactical advantage of portraying his campaign as weaker than it really is, and besides... Timmy isn't really all that clever. So in the absence of even the tiniest scrap of evidence that the R-65 signature drive is gaining any traction whatsoever (you know, like actual people gathering actual signatures)... I'm going to have to reluctantly take Eyman at his word.

(Yuck.)

So... absent a sudden, six-figure infusion of cash, R-65 doesn't have a snowball's chance of making it onto the ballot.

I'm with Goldy: campaigns typically don't announce that they're doing poorly. It's a bad strategy, particularly if you paint your current circumstances as so dire that only a six-figure miracle can save you. So it seems clear that the answer to LSOS' questiondo the voters in Washington State want this thing on the ballot?is no, we don't, LSOS.

There's a silver lining to the collapse of LSOS' Referendum 65: it looks like the gay community is going to avoid having to donate money or volunteer hours to Washington Won't Discriminate, the group that was created to fight Eyman's initiative. WWD is in disarray; some good people were quickly hired to manage the campaign, and those same good people quickly left under murky circumstances. And, of course, those good people won't say for the record why they left.

What's worse, the same slight lights that ran the gay rights movement off a cliff a decade ago are congealing around WWD. (Hi, Laurie Jinkins!) The gay idiocracy (Hi, Anne Levinson!) that wouldn't listen to Cal Anderson, Ed Murray, Tina Podlodowski, or to, uh, me during the run-up to their disastrous, ill-advised, "pro-gay" rights initiative campaign, and then proved themselves incapable of running an effective state-wide campaign once they got I-677 on the ballot, weren't inspiring confidence among gay funders or observersmost of whom won't comment for the record. (After a decade and a half in Seattle, I think gay politics in Washington state can by summed up with three words: cowards enabling idiots.)

So if R-65 is going down, we've dodged a bulletno need to fund WWD or volunteer for WWD or write about WWD. Whew!

Unfortunately there's another bullet in the chamber: the gay marriage decision that we've been expecting any day now for what feels like a decade now. If the Washington State Supreme Court declares gay marriage constitutional and overturns the sate's DOMAsome think the delay points to a pro-gay rights decision, some think it points to conthere will be a backlash. And while amending our state constitution is difficult, it's not impossible, and we could be faced with having to launch a massive state-wide campaign to convince voters to say yes to gay marriage, a much harder sell than convincing them to say yes to gay credit cards.

And like flies to shit, the same fuckwits who couldn't get WWD off the groundor raise money, or hold on to political talentwill swarm around the new group, and we will be faced with the same dilemma: Are we going to donate time and money to a group run by the dopes who should have been run out of the state after I-677's defeat? Or are gays and lesbians in Washington state with some political sense going to speak up? Will they refuse to fund a group run by the discredited gay idiocracy? And will they say sopublicly, on the recordand risk angering the gay idiocracy in order to protect the gay community?


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"Libertarian" == whiney tax dodger with no moiral backbone or sense of community. I have no idea why people give tome to these people.

There is the possibility that Eyman's campaign is hurting, but not to the degree he reports.

I get pleas for donations or signatures all the time by organizers who claim "we must get x by y deadline or z won't happen," and miraculously, the funding or the campaign squeaks through.

Eyman is providing an incentive to "act now, or else," and fundie bigots have a track record of getting the numbers out at the last minute.

Let's assume Eyman is lying again, and instead of having less than 10,000 signatures, maybe he has 50,000. Hurting, but not as bad as he makes it sound. That's a rabbit he could pull out of his hat.

I'm not convinced one way or the other. I surely hope his referendum is dead.

An "act now or else" campaign tactic usually involves a claim that the campaign is oh-so-very-close-to-victory, not oh-so-very-far. They used to inspire hope, and extra effort, and more cash by teasing supporters and/or threatening them with the prospect of the campaign failing by an inch.

Eyman's email, which makes it look like R-65 is failing by a mile (hell, by ten miles), doesn't fit this pattern. Could it sill be a lie? Sure, he's a LSOS. But it's doubtful.

That is my own inclination as well. I just don't want to be caught off guard by people I know to be sneaky rat bastards.

Agreed.

Who decided to push the marriage issue through the courts before there was a secure gay civil rights bill? Could this have been the same idiocracy?

While it does seem dumb (to reasonable people) to claim publicly claim that the campaign is going awful, think about the people he's appealing to: Conservatives in general - and conservative christians in particular - have a victim complex. They believe in the liberal media lie, the gay agenda lie, the persecuted christian lie, etc, etc, etc. What may sound idiotic to us, may seem like a desparate cry for help to Defend Our Way Of Life to the conservative retards.

But, as you point out, it's risky because WA still has a majority of non-idiots in the citizenry. And, as you further point out, LSOS is not that bright.

What lends credence to Eyman's claim is the nature of the signature gathering campaign itself. Eyman has no organization to speak of, other than him and the Fagans. He relies almost exclusively on paid signature gatherers, and in recent years has only been able to afford that through support of one man, Michael Dunmire.

But R-65 has no money, so he's apparently relying on conservative church groups to do all the work for him. But unless an issue catches fire, (like last year's I-912) an all volunteer signature drive requires an immense amount of planning and organization... something Eyman didn't do.

Furthermore, I have heard absolutely no reports of people out gathering signatures. Put this all together, and Eyman's numbers sound believable.

Oh, and Dan... I wouldn't be so concerned about a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, as it requires a two-thirds vote in both houses before going to the people... and I just don't see it getting two-thirds in House. (Fortunately, we can't do constitutional amendments via initiative in WA state.)

My concern would be for the impact a pro-gay marriage decision would have on various races this fall... not the least of which being the three Supreme Court races. That's where the backlash will be focused.

Old timers of good repute, and still sound mind, predicted this decision mignt not come down untill after the elections.

Of course, the young and impatient have been chaffing at the bit.

It is not unknown for the court to take three years to rule.

Need five firm votes - some suggest they are divided deliberately, otheres, to postpone.

I suggest it is to postpone.

Where - in all of this - is the judiciary branch of government? When did it become constitutionally acceptable in this country to put people's civil rights up for a vote? A judge should smack initiatives like LSOS's down in a heartbeat. Goes the other way, too. If some misguided pro-gay group wants to guarantee constitutional process through a vote, it should never be allowed to reach the ballot. Civil rights aren't decided by vox populi.

honestly, this is such a small issue right now compared to the HUGE protest that's only two days away. too bad the stranger's "editor" can't be troubled to write more than two lines about that.

I agree Nathan - we can and should focus on only one thing at a time. A myopic worldview is definitely the best worldview. Me, I am only concerned with how events will impact Tupperware. I love Tupperware, and only Tupperware. That's where it's at.

Bauhaus - what turnip truck did you just fall off?

In the State of Washington, no initiative has ever been stopped by the courts before going to the ballot.

The proactive attempt was8 yeas ago - after 20 years of frustration in the Legislature, put together by an organizing effort by a season group - almost a legend in its scope and ability, Hands off Washington. HOW did not win the Initiative, but despite all, stopped the right wing many times in its tracks and was a model for excellent state wide organizing.
Dan complains about everything in the gay community except himself.

It is like saying the Civil Rights Movement should have just watied another century......while repeating we are just waiting a while longer for justice.....from somewhere.

Gay people have never legally been a protected class, and this means they have never had civil rights under any law as queers.

That is why there is a gay movement with a great unfinished agenda.

All the ivory tower ideas of what should and should not --- don't work here on planet earth.

Even in old rad Seattle, two elecions have been won to defend gay rights.

You are in over your knowledge......or just like to sputter like Dan.

Hm. I was just making a sign to carry at Monday's protest when I checked the comment thread for this post.

We ran a full-page story on the last big march, a week ago, by Eli Sanders. The Stranger is not ignoring these marches.

Let's make a deal: Read the paper, then slam us. Not the other way around.

I think the danger that Dan points out here is very real. Do we want to have WWD in charge of anything around the DOMA/Same Sex Marriage issue?

I don't have any political history here. I'm a regular guy who got fed up when the various petition drives were lodged by Eyman and the Family Fagan earlier this year.

I called and e-mailed many of the GLBT organizations in Seattle asking "What's the plan?" and "How can I help?"
When it became clear that there wasn't a coherent plan, I tried suggesting a few ideas to the folks at WWD. No reply. Not even a polite "piss off you ignorant git".

When the DOMA/Same Sex Marriage stuff starts happening, one thing is crystal clear to me. We can't rely on WWD to have a plan so it's going to be up to us to step up.

I'm keeping the powder that I hoarded to fight Eyman dry and saving it for the coming WWD goat rodeo over DOMA.

~The Gay Curmudgeon
P.s. I especially like this quote from the LSOS:

"I continue to believe that people want to have a chance to vote on this," he said. "Just because the signature drive lacks oomph doesn't really indicate anything about the issue itself or how people would vote on it."

What? Was he high when he said that? The whole premise of the initiative process, and indeed of Mr Eyman's ignoble and parasitic existence on it's back, is that a petition signature drive is an absolute barometer of how people react to and would vote on the issue itself.

I don't know anything about turnip trucks, Jake. On that I will defer to you.

As I recall, Afro-Americans never had to face a popular vote in order to obtain what was legally theirs. There were never any initiatives asking "Should Negroes be sent back to Africa?" or "Should Negroes have equality with whites?" And can you imagine what the results would have been, say, in Mississippi in 1964? No, the leadership of the African-American community knew that their battles would be won in the streets through civil disobedience and through the courts by legal process.

And yes, I do agree with Mr. Savage on a lot of issues. He's worldly and wise beyond his years and, apparently, a much nicer person than you.

I did read that article, Dan. It was well done, and I appreciate it. My real frustration was with the tiny blurb you blogged to accompany the last protest, and was misplaced here. I was talking with my girlfriend about this all and she brought up a good point. I owe you an apology. Blogs are meant for your personal interests, and it's unfair for me to expect you personally to invest as much time with the immigration issue as gay rights. I apologize, and will be proud to join you in the protest tomorrow.

Dear Nathan,

Besides assigning pieces to writers—and we've got someone assigned to the protest tomorrow—I'm not sure what else I can do. I hope the latests GOP proposals about illegal immigrants (make 'em felons—no, wait: shoot them as they come across the border!) and the Latino community's romance with the "family values" GOP. A party that would deport the parents—or, heck, shoot 'em—of small children can't be called pro-family.

We're for the immigrants. Heck, I'm for open borders—Canada, Mexico, USA. If the richest countries in Europe can be in the same political union—and share open borders—with basket cases like Greece and (at the time) Ireland, I don't see why we can't have open borders with Mexico.

But here's the dilemma: Besides "yes, yes!" I don't know what to say about the marches. I'm for 'em, I support the immigrants, legal and illegal, and I think everyone should support them. So we're going to the march tomorrow—I'm taking my kid to his first big protest.

The unfortunate thing with the so called "gay movement" is that it is largely through the focus of a few people... whether here in Seattle, or elsewhere in the US. Most of the "kids" under 30 have no realization of the change that has happened over the past 20 years (or the ACT-UP/Rights/Queer) marches in the 70's and 80's. With a huge portion of a generation simply gone, there's a much smaller mass of leadership out there, and what is there operates with generally little political skill or effort. With regards to the politicos, non profits and other invested community leaders, they are all trying to protect their "turf" chasing after minor bits of the pie.

I almost feel like the community needs to "lose" some thing large (although all the DOMA laws didn't seem to make anyone take notice, nor any of the other crap coming out of the mouths of people like Falwell and Dobson, amongst others). When even Democrats say they are for marriage restrictions (like Kerry) our fine community does a piss poor job of calling him and others on the carpet about it.

Same goes with immigration. Presented is a perfect chance for immigrants (and their supporters) and fags (and their supporters) to stand together and say lets stop all discrimination, and boot out the bastards that continue to make life miserable for large numbers of people... but does anyone have the fortitude to do that? I haven't seen it so far.

I think it's important on this issue to reflect on the true meaning of the Biblical perspective. I quote here from Genesis 27:11 -- "And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man."

Dan- good for you man. We will see you at the march. Fo sho.

Personally, I thought Eli's piece on the march was one of the more thoughtful ones.

Though the march will be overwhelmengly Latino, since theyre the ones that took to the streets in the first place, Seattle's march will include all communities. Not to be corny, but it will be a true rainbow. Yes, even the loony Freedom Socialists, International Socialists, Capitol Hill Socialists, recovering socialists, Trotsky lite socialists and other opportunistic socialists will be there. And of course there will be some bald National Socialists yelling vulgarities at the marchers. Hell you cant keep them away from anything. The other good thing is that this march will be silent so there wont be any hey hey ho ho chants. It should be powerful, and it will continue to remind us all of the power of activism.

I think we should all march, and not only in this march, but in the gay civil right marches and the rallys in the Rainier Valley for more equal distribution of contracts to minority contractors. When we dont show solidarity with each other, than they ( the Bushies win) We all have differences, yes, and at times we can all be self righteous, but through true solidarity we can make some changes in this country. We must learn to work outside our own comfort zones and work with other communities. Yes, even centrist party hacks. =)

The republican agenda is against all of us, and so when the gays ( is that right?) march, we should march along with them. We should all join our marches. Xenophobia and Homophobia, underfunded schools war, lousy transportation and racism hurts us all.


PS Dan- Though there was a small increase among some Latino voters for Bush ( Florida and Texas) The Latino vote went overwhelmengly to the Democrats. Bush likes to call Latinos his constituency and he even went as far as calling Latinos Humans ( though his party and his base disagree with him) The Catholic Church is still a huge force in the community and as you - a former Catholic well knows-their view on gay rights is a wee fucked up.

The gay community lacks leadership. This is nothing new.

Being gay is a difficult thing to form a political movement around. I was reminded of this recently when my partner and I were invited to have a drink with some dyke neighbors. It was obvious to me that other than the fact that we live in the same neighborhood and are both lesbian couples -- we have very little else in common.

I think there is an inherent problem with trying to build a common vision and a movement around sexual orientation. It is an interesting question and I would love to see the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered and the friends, family and supporters of queers get together and figure out better ways and better tactics to attain equal rights.

I think taking potshots at each other is not getting us anywhere. Anne Levinson and Laurie Jinkins may have bad tactics and may be 'idiots' but the people who have the power here are the ones who show up and try to do something.

Man, sorry about the lousy spelling and grammar on my last post. It's early and I took the day off. =)

Believing someone who has repeatedly lied in the past is just plain stupid. Best thing is give him no press.

TWO CENTS, I have long agreed with your general premise that it is no real surprise that "being gay is a difficult thing to form a political movement around".

Other minorities have more commonality with each other and more support among their families. Few blacks kick their kids out of their home when they discover their kids are black. Few Latinos are embarrassed or in the closet about being Latino. Both blacks and Latinos generally suffer economically due to the discrimination, while gays are broadly distributed on the econoomic scale, and there is an economic incentive to be closeted and NOT participate in too much political activity.

Being politically active in the gay community involves one significant step that is absent from most other political movements. You have to come out. And be out in a very obvious way. You have to be comfortable standing up for a political movement surrounding the concept of who we desire to have sex with in a country that is still pretty puritanical about sex in general.

Background - I live in San Diego, but I used to live in Seattle. I am an attorney licensed in both states.

I was very worried when I was reading about the disorganization among the groups trying to respond to Eyman's mean-spirited initiative. Here in California, Equality California and others have put together what to me appears to be a very strong and cohesive coalition of groups, both GLBT and others, that are united to fight back all efforts to destroy our domestic partnership law and our civil rights laws, as well as support our potential right to marriage.

What the efforts in California have shown is that a cohesive and well-directed effort can succeed. We are being active and on-message throughout the entire state. It is succeeding - we are changing the public perception of gay rights and of gay families. We are changing minds, in our favor.

Washington is going to need the same concerted, cohesive, and focused effort to defeat any challenges if someone with more clout than that fool Eyman tries to do something. You should start laying the groundwork now, in fact. Who the heck is going to lead? Who CAN lead? Anyone?

From two cents: Being gay is a difficult thing to form a political movement around.

And from seme:Other minorities have more commonality with each other and more support among their families.

I disagree enough to write something. An identity politic forms easily when people adopt a common characteristic as a significant part of their identity, whether they are gay, or women, or of a particular ethnicity.

Identity political groups tend to galvanize only in the presence of a common enemy, so we tend to recognize our identity as part of a "movement" when we are angry. And we drift apart when everything is more or less okay. I suppose we can thank Eyman for something. Sort of.

It seems to me other identity movements are every bit as heterogeneous as we are and are subject to the same strengths and weaknesses. "Women," for example.

If other people want to define my "gay" identity as a set of sexual behaviors, that is their privilege. I do not. The range of possible sexual behaviors is a subset of a gay identity that varies widely among members, and is not requisite for identity membership.

It is curious that the more outspoken our enemies are, the more they are fixated on the specifics of our sexual stimulation techniques. I am happy to provide them with intimate details in high relief. The details, however, remain only tangentially related to my identity.

Eyeman's referendum offends my identity. It does not alter how I fuck. In my offense, I easily and willingly unite with my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters, who may or may not fuck similarly, but whose identities are similarly offended.

i heard from someone who knows someone who knows someone that the supreme ct is now sitting on the opinion over gay marriage until november, after half of them are up for re-election. a smart move on their part that, while it irks the impatient side of me, also signals something bigger and better:
if they're waiting until next novemember, they must have OK-d the gay marriage issue. why else would they wait until after they have the E.WA votes?
thoughts?

The interweaving thread through all of this is some form of discrimination. Immigrants, latinos, blacks, gays... for some reason the mindset is lost when it comes to this point. Discrimination takes place towards groups of people (even milquetoast white suburban guys) through both active and passive means. We have an opportunity to grab hold of that idea, and run with it across racial, orientation and gender boundaries.

In my opinion people like Eyman get away with what they are doing because of indifference. When it becomes difficult for them (politically, financially or otherwise) they tend to run away. Eyman saw this as an opportunity to line his pockets-- and it appears he's losing that bet. That's a good thing, but at the same time it doesn't change the fact that to stand up to discrimination, one actually has to "stand up". 90% of the gay community has failed to do this in the past 10 years, leaving it to a shrinking leadership faction with a spectrum of talent to try to make things right.

The 10% left over in the gay community is the same 10% that does the same thing in the latino community, the black community, etc. If we combine those efforts, I think we all come out the stronger for it. However, I have seen nothing on the horizon (other than occasionally "marching" together) that leads me to believe those people in leadership are actually making the efforts to cross boundaries and stand together.

I know, let's give everyone a $100 bribe to make them forget it costs $100 to fill up their SUV ...

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