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Wednesday, May 17, 2006

The Cosby Show

Posted by on May 17 at 12:10 PM

According to Bill Cosby, black American males have entirely failed and now it’s up to sisters to take charge and save the race. Cosby’s criticism of urban black males is not peculiar or original; it’s been around since at the late 60s, and is connected with two crucial moments: the rise of the black middle-class (who benefitted from Affirmative Action); and the fall of the black working-class (whose males were hit hard by the deindustrialization of American society). Instead of blaming global economic changes, as does William Julius Wilson’s book When Work Disappears: The World of the Urban Poor, the black middle-class (and its leading representative, Cosby) has blamed the character (and values) of underclass black males.


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I loves me some Jello!

Hey they always blamed the character and value of racist white america and not that it was the lack of work ,or how poor the whites had it and maybe it was about the conditions not the person that made them racist.
Nope never will happen, whitey is born by blood a racist--its not the conditions and his values that make him that way.
Its all Bull shit.
Cosby is right its everyman for himself out there and people black or white better look to themselves and pick themselves up by the boot strap and get over blaming everyone else but themselves for the crap they are in.
You dont just sit in crap and go "hey it stinks here,and not do anything"
You gotta get out of the crap, get clean and move on away from the stink,or clean up the crap so it don't stink no more.
Better look out 'Mama Jama' gonna whoop that ass slackas.

"hey it stinks here,and not do anything"

NA NA NAAAA, GONNA HAVE A *BAD* TIME!

Hey kids, this is Bill Cosby, asking you to stick around and get an education, and if you get crunk, you probably won't learn anything!

NA NA NAAAA, GONNA HAVE A *BAD* TIME!

Nigga Schola, This posting is beneath you. Cosby's racial politics were thouroughly discussed twenty five years ago. Compare one episode of the Huxtables to Sanford and Son, and an educated viewer will see everything they need to know.


Charles please get up to speed on where the racial discussion is today. Condi Rice is the most powerful black woman who has ever walked this earth. Oprah is the richest. That was not true twenty five years ago. American middle class blacks will get nowhere with their continual crybaby routine about white man oppressing them.


Charles you have family in the highest levels of Zimbabwe government and yet you have the nerve to post about the 'hood where you live. Then you post about flying to Manhattan to attend screenings of a vanity film you wrote for free. Working class people don't have the time or connections to write vanity films and fly around promoting them. Working class white people could not afford to live in your neighborhood, they live in places your publication makes fun of like Tacoma, Auburn and Kent.


So Nigga Schola, forget about the twenty five year old issue of Cosby's work and comment about this year when sociology professor Ray West commented on his son Kanye West's lyrics - Have you ever heard two white teenagers greet each other in this manner?: "Hey Cracker how's it going?" Whazzup Honkie, I'm doing OK." Ridiculous right? That's exactly how ludicrous it is for rappers to set a bad example for black kids, by singing about "nigga this" and "nigga that."


Today working class whites have privledged blacks like you Charles writing about the trailer trash crackers in Auburn. That's as it should be. We have freedom of speech and that means the privledged elite are free to print dumb commentary about poor people.


But as a dumb poor Northwest native, the real racial issue I see today is not black-white in America, it is China, Arabia, India. Ask an India Software engineer how afraid he is of competition from American white males? Ask white American males over at Microsoft how much being white helps in competing with Chinese and India in engineering? India is kicking our ass in this area and having middle class black males whining about being oppressed helps nothing.


If American white males are the only problem it should be no problem for the niggas to leave the 'hood and get into engineering programs in India and excell. No white males to oppress you there right?


By the way you and Erica can not just call Seattle Weekly racist and then just drop the whole issue without looking like very, very, lame privledged crybabies.


There's been a rise in the black middle class but a drop in the black working class? What does that mean? How are these classes defined and what defines their rise and/or fall?

Amen. Well said, Allen.

Then again, I've never seen two blacks conduct an entire "conversation" using only the word "Dude".

If you want to talk about the character of young black males come ride my bus (101) and listen to the VERY LOUD homophobic slurs I have to put up with every fucking day. I say shit about it all the time and I just get these rolly eyed looks from these guys. And what's up with the yelling on the cellphone and the yelling on the bus in general. It all fuckin pisses me off. And don't give me crap about understanding someone else's culture! That behavior in a shared public space is unexceptable. BLAH!!!

'What U talkin bout Willis'
Wabba yooba sayba abouba meeeba mannna'

I'sa gonna gooba tooba kitchna geetta meeba somba chicken

Hey Nigga Schola,


That bus rider is saying your Hip Hop fans spew homophobic slurs on the bus every day? I thought you taught us that all the homophobic "shoot the faggot" lyrics in Hip Hop come from white oppression?


Are you sure the homophobia in hip hop is not in fact an accurat reflection of anti-gay young black male culture?

i think that the point of this is that we often confuse the symptom with the cause. do people need to take more responsibility for themselves? sure. but we also need to make sure that opportunity is available for those who try to make better for themselves. and working at mickey dee's for 6.15 an hour doesn't count.

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