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Saturday, May 20, 2006

Hoaxed

Posted by on May 20 at 11:02 AM

The Iran-imposing-dress-code-on-religious-minorities story was a hoax. Still, Iran is no paradise for religious minorities:

The persecution of Bahá’ís has been common throughout Iranian history. In the 1950s, under the regime of the Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, Bahá’ís and their holy places were attacked with tacit state approval. Since the Iranian revolution, more than 200 Bahá’ís have been executed or killed, hundreds more have been imprisoned, and tens of thousands have been deprived of jobs, pensions, businesses, and educational opportunities. All national Bahá’í administrative structures have been banned by the government, and holy places, shrines and cemeteries have been confiscated, vandalized, or destroyed. The Islamic government of Iran even destroys their graves [2].

Oh, yeah: Iran is also a pretty shitty place for gay people:

Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct

Iran’s execution of two men last week for homosexual conduct highlights a pattern of persecution of gay men that stands in stark violation of the rights to life and privacy, Human Rights Watch said today.

On Sunday, November 13, the semi-official Tehran daily Kayhan reported that the Iranian government publicly hung two men, Mokhtar N. (24 years old) and Ali A. (25 years old), in the Shahid Bahonar Square of the northern town of Gorgan.

The government reportedly executed the two men for the crime of “lavat.” Iran’s shari`a-based penal code defines lavat as penetrative and non-penetrative sexual acts between men. Iranian law punishes all penetrative sexual acts between adult men with the death penalty. Non-penetrative sexual acts between men are punished with lashes until the fourth offense, when they are punished with death. Sexual acts between women, which are defined differently, are punished with lashes until the fourth offense, when they are also punished with death.

But Iran’s anti-gay policies are, it seems, okey-dokey with the Bush administration:

U.S. Aligned With Iran in Anti-Gay Vote

In a reversal of policy, the United States on Monday backed an Iranian initiative to deny United Nations consultative status to organizations working to protect the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people….

“This vote is an aggressive assault by the U.S. government on the right of sexual minorities to be heard,” said Scott Long, director of the LGBT rights program at Human Rights Watch. “It is astonishing that the Bush administration would align itself with Sudan, China, Iran and Zimbabwe in a coalition of the homophobic.”


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I want to remind everyone that in Israel even the Orthodox Jews are pro gay and pro gay marriage. There was even a gay rights parade in Jerusalem that went off without a hitch.

If the U.S. would invade Iran we could force them to be pro gay too.

Christ, Sho, your comment is just FUBAR'd six ways to Saturday. Who said anything about forcing anyone to be pro gay? I don't think the word "force" has ever been a part of the civil rights agenda, ever. And did you not read the second part of Dan's post? While there are many things the US has to offer Iran (chaos, destruction, famine, turmoil...), somehow I think gay rights won't be one of them...

And gays haven't been doing to well in Iraq since we invaded that country...

http://www.gaycitynews.com/gcn_511/iraq.html

Calm down Hijacked, I think Sho was being sarcastic...

Dan I'm a pro war democrat like yourself, and read your case for invading Iraq. It made sense to me. You have to ask are the women and gays better off now or under Hussein? Nothing's perfect. But I think even if things are bad now, it'd be worse if the U.S. stays out. So like you I was all for invading Iraq. Iran will be a tougher sell.

This "Jews and Christians wear badges" doesn't look like a hoax so much as propaganda that missed it's mark. We've got to drum up more support for getting America into Iran, and you've got to point out how backwards, anti-gay, sexist, and bigoted the Iranians are. America has to bring civilization to these people, Syria will the next after Iraq.

Don't feel bad about your support for the Iraq invasion Dan. A lot of Democrats feel the same way. We can change Bush out of there and get in a pro war democrat who can finish the job.

Hoax? Huge suprise.

Israeli Orthodox Jews are not pro-gay -

Violence erupts at Jerusalem Gay Pride
After attempts to stop it from happening, the Gay Pride parade in Jerusalem took place on Thursday and an ultra-Orthodox Jew stabbed and wounded two or three marchers.

http://www.queerday.com/2005/jul/01/violence_erupts_at_jerusalem_gay_pride.html

"In a reversal of policy..."


What have the folks at HRW been smoking? The US has _always_ been on the same side as the "axis of evil" on this issue. The Free World is unanimous on it, that GBLT folks should have all the rights & freedoms as their fellow citizens. The Head Up Its Ass world, which includes the US, feels that these people should continue to be 2nd or no- class citizens.

Steve: As you are a proud member of the Head Up Its Ass World, I invite you to pull it out & see some light:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article548945.ece

No, Steve, you are wrong. Iraq is much, much, MUCH worse now than it ever was under Hussein. This is what Bush & Co. have created, an anarchic situation w/ little or no government, little or no public infrastructure, little or no hope for millions or Iraqis, whether they be Kurds, Sunnis, Shi'ites, Christian or Jew.

Why are you so gung-ho in turning a functioning government in Iran into complete chaos? Pull off that Democratic mask of yours & show your true colors: You just want to kill them all. Liquidate the population (a' la Hitler) & settle the land w/ happy, shiney people. You're no better than the Iranian government.

And Shoshana: What is the Israeli Government & the "Never Again" crowd doing about the 'ethnic cleansing' in Iraq? Probably hand springs. They're sure not doing anything else...


Here's that link, again, in full. (I've been having trouble w/ the Stranger's server all day)

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article548945.ece


Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold


boy, the stupids sure came out on this thread.

pro-war democrat + zionist jew = proven demonstrably WRONG about every pertinent world event of the last 3 years.

The Stranger is written for zionist jews and pro-war democrats. Eli Sanders paints Rachel Corrie as the terrorist she is. If you want to read pacifist hippie antisemites, read Seattle Weakly.

Eli Sanders did a good job at proving Rachel Corrie was an air headed idiot working for terrorist organizations. The Stranger also had some nice coverage of the Israeli military, pointing out that the United States could do worse than follow Israel's lead, mandatory service for men and women.

Pro Zionist, friend of Israel, whatever you want to label it The Stranger provides some balance in a town full of pacifist hippies.

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