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Wednesday, March 1, 2006

What Shaviro Has To Say About The Danish Matter

Posted by on March 1 at 10:33 AM

My opinion of Hegel is certainly not Steven Shaviro’s opinion; but when it comes down to current issues, his opinion is often my opinion:

Free Speech February 24th, 2006 Okay, let’s see if I can get this straight. A right-wing Danish newspaper publishes viciously racist anti-Muslim cartoons, hoping thereby to stir up trouble. (I say “racist,” because the cartoons involved stereotypical “ethnic” images that were clearly directed against Arabs, not just against Muslim believers of no matter what race or ethnicity). The newspaper succeeds in its provocation, as violent protests spring up across the Arab and Muslim world. (The protests are often cynically fomented by dictatorial governments, and they focus exclusively on the insult to the Muslim religion, not mentioning at all the element of racism involved). Throughout Europe and North America, there is a great outcry supporting free speech; the cartoons are republished widely, as a statement of support for free speech and of solidarity with the Danish newspaper against the would-be censors of the Arab and Muslim world, who are said not to share, or even understand, the Western values of freedom and tolerance.

Meanwhile, the historian David Irving is sentenced to 3 years of jail in Austria for denying the Holocaust. Irving is a vicious ultra-right-wing provocateur, and basically an apologist for Hitler and the Nazi regime. (I do not know the extent to which Irving has made specifically anti-Jewish statements; but I would argue that his very denial of the factuality of the Holocaust is itself already anti-Semitic). But all the people who denounced various Arab and Muslim governments and peoples for their protests against the Danish cartoons are strangely silent about this quite similar case. I do not see newspapers all over the West reprinting Irving’s speeches and articles in solidarity with his free speech rights. I do not see anyone saying that this conviction indicates that Europeans and Christians are incapable of sharing, or understanding, the values of freedom and tolerance.

I do believe in free speech as a universal value. I do believe that we need to support the right of free speech even for racists, and even for people who make provocative statements with the deliberate intent of stirring up violence and trouble. (Speech is itself an action, of course, and it will always be necessary to draw a line somewhere; but I am in favor of extending things as far as possible in the direction of regulating and limiting speech-acts as little as possible). What I don’t like is the double standard according to which some hateful speech (like that of the Danish cartoons) is more worthy than other hateful speech (like Irving’s). Anybody who says that “however much I am in favor of the right to freely express one’s opinion, one cannot allow the denial of the Holocaust to hide behind overly generous freedom of expression” ought to take a similarly stringent line with the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. And anybody who defends (as I do) that newspaper’s right to publish its scurrilous trash ought similarly to defend David Irving’s right to publish his scurrilous trash. As Warren Ellis put it the other day, “The test of free speech always lays in that which is hardest to defend. It really would be nice if maggots like these didn’t make the rest of us work so hard.”


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I agree completely as well. It reminds me of the Chomsky-Faurisson "scandal." Here's Chomsky:

"...it is elementary that freedom of expression (including academic freedom) is not to be restricted to views of which one approves, and that it is precisely in the case of views that are almost universally despised and condemned that this right must be most vigorously defended. It is easy enough to defend those who need no defense or to join in unanimous (and often justified) condemnation of a violation of civil rights by some official enemy."

Right on - All the policy that jailed David Irving does is give him the faux credibility that comes with being persecuted. The cartoonists and Irving's rights to free expression should be equally, vigorously defended. Thanks to Charles and Eli for keeping this story in perspective, illuminating the many critical "nuances" such as the role racism has played in all this. AS Charles said in an earlier post - The white people are making them crazy!

So has anyone here ever mentioned Warren Ellis' take on the cartoons? Or did I miss that?

It's as good a take as there is on these things:

"My perspective on the mess begins with the fact that these are shitty, stupid, evil-minded cartoons produced by obvious hacks for a conservative rag that would appear to embody everything bad about the word “conservative” simply by publishing the things. In a sane and ordered world, everyone involved in their publication would be taken behind a stables and hit in the face with a shit-shovel. Jyllands-Posten has a lousy reputation when it comes to ethnic tolerance, their intent to offend in the most racist and simple-minded way possible was quite clear in the commissioning of the cartoons, and their apology was mealy-mouthed at best. The test of free speech always lays in that which is hardest to defend. It really would be nice if maggots like these didn't make the rest of us work so hard."

I mean, let's not proclaim the cartoonists' total innocence in the name of free speech. With great power comes great responsibility.

The only double stanard is those that Muslims have come to feel entitled to. 1) The Muslim world doesn't restrict their media, religious and political leaders from churning out hate speech towardst Jews, Christians, Hindus, gays, or women. There is no censorship to avoid hurting feelings of infindels. So why are Muslims crying foul? They don't complain or fight to put an end to "seperate and unequal" when it is in their favor.
2) Turkey puts people in prison for not denying the holocaust- the one they committed against the Armenians, that is. And the Muslim community is complicite in this. Imagine if in the west you were put in prison for simply saying (or writing) "the Israeli's stole land from the Palestinians". The reality is that what Turkey did to the Armenians was a more widespread atrocity then what the Israli's did to the Palestinians, and there has been no punishment from the international community. Both events took place around the same time. The Muslim world won't forget one- they refuse to acknowledge the other. Nice.

The only double stanard is those that Muslims have come to feel entitled to. 1) The Muslim world doesn't restrict their media, religious and political leaders from churning out hate speech towardst Jews, Christians, Hindus, gays, or women. There is no censorship to avoid hurting feelings of infindels. So why are Muslims crying foul? They don't complain or fight to put an end to "seperate and unequal" when it is in their favor.
2) Turkey puts people in prison for not denying the holocaust- the one they committed against the Armenians, that is. And the Muslim community is complicite in this. Imagine if in the west you were put in prison for simply saying (or writing) "the Israeli's stole land from the Palestinians". The reality is that what Turkey did to the Armenians was a more widespread atrocity then what the Israli's did to the Palestinians, and there has been no punishment from the international community. Both events took place around the same time. The Muslim world won't forget one- they refuse to acknowledge the other. Nice.

The only double stanard is those that Muslims have come to feel entitled to. 1) The Muslim world doesn't restrict their media, religious and political leaders from churning out hate speech towardst Jews, Christians, Hindus, gays, or women. There is no censorship to avoid hurting feelings of infindels. So why are Muslims crying foul? They don't complain or fight to put an end to "seperate and unequal" when it is in their favor.
2) Turkey puts people in prison for not denying the holocaust- the one they committed against the Armenians, that is. And the Muslim community is complicite in this. Imagine if in the west you were put in prison for simply saying (or writing) "the Israeli's stole land from the Palestinians". The reality is that what Turkey did to the Armenians was a more widespread atrocity then what the Israli's did to the Palestinians, and there has been no punishment from the international community. Both events took place around the same time. The Muslim world won't forget one- they refuse to acknowledge the other. Nice.

The only double stanard is those that Muslims have come to feel entitled to. 1) The Muslim world doesn't restrict their media, religious and political leaders from churning out hate speech towardst Jews, Christians, Hindus, gays, or women. There is no censorship to avoid hurting feelings of infindels. So why are Muslims crying foul? They don't complain or fight to put an end to "seperate and unequal" when it is in their favor.
2) Turkey puts people in prison for not denying the holocaust- the one they committed against the Armenians, that is. And the Muslim community is complicite in this. Imagine if in the west you were put in prison for simply saying (or writing) "the Israeli's stole land from the Palestinians". The reality is that what Turkey did to the Armenians was a more widespread atrocity then what the Israli's did to the Palestinians, and there has been no punishment from the international community. Both events took place around the same time. The Muslim world won't forget one- they refuse to acknowledge the other. Nice.

The only double stanard is those that Muslims have come to feel entitled to. 1) The Muslim world doesn't restrict their media, religious and political leaders from churning out hate speech towardst Jews, Christians, Hindus, gays, or women. There is no censorship to avoid hurting feelings of infindels. So why are Muslims crying foul? They don't complain or fight to put an end to "seperate and unequal" when it is in their favor.
2) Turkey puts people in prison for not denying the holocaust- the one they committed against the Armenians, that is. And the Muslim community is complicite in this. Imagine if in the west you were put in prison for simply saying (or writing) "the Israeli's stole land from the Palestinians". The reality is that what Turkey did to the Armenians was a more widespread atrocity then what the Israli's did to the Palestinians, and there has been no punishment from the international community. Both events took place around the same time. The Muslim world won't forget one- they refuse to acknowledge the other. Nice.

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