Slog - Comments on Put Burner Over the Top http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over Wouldn't it be nice if we had publicly financed campaigns? Wouldn't it be great if a candidate's perceived chances weren't so wrapped up in her ability to raise money? Wouldn't it be wonderful if the national Dems didn't use fundraising as their only yardstick when measuring a candidate's local support? Yeah, that would all be great. Swell. And let's work toward making publicly financed campaigns a reality. In the meantime, though, let's be realistic. The national Dems are paying attention to Darcy Burner's race and they've got a bunch of money to dump on her—provided she raises $320,000. By tomorrow.... Copyright 2007 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:35:44 -0800 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:19:35 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Will Dan-

The last link in your post is broken (I think). Take a look.

]]> Will http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061306 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061306 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:03:51 -0800 Comment by Geni Dan, thank you for posting this. I hope everyone who's even thinking about the 8th District - or the makeup of the House at all - will consider making a donation. I recently ran for office myself, and I'm here to tell you the fundraising is the ugliest, dirtiest part of the job. And Darcy was one of my supporters during my campaign - she gave me a donation at HER OWN KICKOFF - so you better believe my donation is going to her today!

]]> Geni http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061347 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061347 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:24:51 -0800 Comment by impp Apparently there's house party for her in Seattle tonight. It's on her website.

]]> impp http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061350 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061350 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:26:07 -0800 Comment by psychoblogger Wouldn't it be wonderful if George Soros (Just Another Billionaire for Bush) rode to the rescue & put Darcy on the front Burner? Soros burned & crashed in his attempt to buy 1600 for Very Hairy Kerry (Just Another Billionaire ...) in 2004, but he surely can buy the east side, & have chump change left over. Thank *** for McCain/Feingold. Wouldn't it be wonderful to buy even more "reform."

]]> psychoblogger http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061386 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061386 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:51:27 -0800 Comment by Gomez That's really neat. Why is she a good candidate for Washington's 8th District? Neither you nor Eli have much of an answer to this question besides, "She's a Democrat and she's not Dave Reichert."

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061406 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061406 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:03:55 -0800 Comment by D Huygens If you'd have listened to her on Dave Ross yesterday, you'd know she is a kick-ass candidate.

]]> D Huygens http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061432 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061432 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:20:43 -0800 Comment by impp I gave. It seems rare to donate for a Dem who's in state. I've made several donations to out-of-state Dems in the last few years but none to locals.

]]> impp http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061475 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061475 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:00:32 -0800 Comment by Stefan Sharkansky Wouldn’t it be nice if we had publicly financed campaigns?

It would be just as nice as having government employees working on campaigns instead of citizen volunteers and having government journalists endorsing candidates instead of blogs and newspaper editorial boards.

]]> Stefan Sharkansky http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061500 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061500 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:19:18 -0800 Comment by Gomez D Huygens, give some examples, even if they are vague paraphrases of what she said. I'm genuinely curious.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061501 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061501 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:21:14 -0800 Comment by josh Although I'm all for more Democrats in the House, I just spend a plane ride reading Freakonomics. This section is relevant to the fundraising issue:
. . . the amount of money spent by the candidates hardy matters at all. A winning candidate can cut his spending in half and lose only 1 percent of the vote. Meanwhile, a losing candidate who doubles his spending can expect to shift the vote in his favor only by that same 1 percent. What really matters for a political candidate is not how much you spend; what matters is who you are.

]]> josh http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061517 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061517 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:41:18 -0800 Comment by britster To Gomez: Just a dem, and not Dave R are good reasons to me.

And to Dan, I would be curious to see more campaign financing talk from you. I can never decide how I feel, yes, the sums of today's campaigns are out of control, and yes, elections can maybe be bought, but there are other angles that support campaign finance similar to today's model--ie doantion based. I've worked on campaigns that out-spent their oponents 10 fold merely because the rich ass running (sorry--I worked for a consultancy) could write the check, but still lost because they never attended an event or rang a doorbell.

Also--there is something to be said for the $$$= popularity/public support concept. Lots of contribution money given often means a candidate is wanted, supported, believed in by a certain (possibly majority of the) public.

So is the solution serious caps on donations, and maybe serious watchdog on where the money really comes from??? For example 100k from a 'washington' government association out of idaho, should ring bells for a Seattle tax issue, right? (anyone else know which campaign I am speaking of?) but 5000 donations of 10 dollars each should be a completely legit show of support.

yes/no?

truly curious as to what people think....

]]> britster http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061519 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061519 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:42:14 -0800 Comment by fnarf I just went in for a second $25. Hey, I have other responsibilities too.

My personal ideal of campaign reform is extremely simple: raise as much as you want; $500 per person maximum; and NO TELEVISION ADS PERMITTED. Not by you, not by PACs, not by whatever the hell Swift Boat Douchebags, not by Ken Schramm editorializing on the news. TV coverage is UNIFORMLY BULLSHIT. Only exception: C-SPAN, in as-boring-as-possible head-shot hour-format interviews. MANDATORY interviews, for national candidates.

]]> fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061538 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061538 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:14:23 -0800 Comment by Gomez Britster, they may be good reasons to you and others, but how does Darcy Burner convince a suburban moderate or conservative voter on the Eastside, who BTW is not nearly as easily swayed by such a vague liberal slant, that Burner is a better option than Reichert? What sets this rookie ex-exec apart and makes her a superior candidate over a 33 year political vet and former police chief?

It's important that Burner cross that bridge, and she's gonna need more than (D-Bellevue) and the fact that she's not Dave Reichert to do it, or Reichert's going to easily win the 8th District this fall. Voters in the 8th don't think like you and me.

I'm not saying this to slam her. I'm saying this because it's legitimately important. She's still hiding behind press releases, fundraisers, her campaign's talking heads and preaching to the choir.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061550 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061550 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:34:29 -0800 Comment by Richard Jensen Two problems with the way campaigns are financed now:

1. More than half of the personal wealth in America is held by less than 10% of the population.

2. Media companies that fail to hold political figures accountable get rich selling campaign advertising.

What if campaigns were cheap?

What if the public ran the government?

O, wait . . .

]]> Richard Jensen http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061847 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061847 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:39:14 -0800 Comment by erin In the meantime. In the meantime, while Democrats keep waiting for the Democratic Party to mysteriously change their position on the war with NO pressure coming from constituents, the war will continue and more people will be killed.

Wake up democrats. Voting for someone who is taking money from the national Democratic Party means that you are supporting the entire machine. The machine that refuses to stop bush, the machine that allows more and more money to be used for killing people. How does that make sense?

Someday, people will wake up. "In the meantime" thousands and thousands will die.

The Democratic Party supports the war. They have not stopped the funding, they have not stopped Bush. They applaud and give standing ovations at the State of the Union. That is no oppostition. That is collusion.

]]> erin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061877 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c061877 Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:57:04 -0800 Comment by Geni You want to know why the money matters? It's far less what the money can buy - a paid campaign staff, a professional office, professional advertising - than it is credibility. I'm here to tell you, having just finished a campaign of my own, that it does NOT MATTER to most of the media or the powers that be what your message is. If you haven't raised a certain amount of money, you're a joke. Period. They won't even mention you in news articles, they won't call you for an endorsement interview - they do not consider you a serious candidate unless you spend 90% of your time grubbing for money from wealthy donors and PACs. To me, that is the crux of our problem in this country right now. It's the one problem with the campaign books being totally open to the public - the pundits and the wonks and the political junkies all handicap your race based totally on the bottom line in your campaign account.

The only thing that will change that is to get the big private money out of campaigns. A candidate should have to raise a certain number of private donations in a small amount - $5 to $25 - to show viability, then after the required number of grassroots donations are made, public financing should kick in. Without a system like that, well, folks, you gotta dance with them whut brung ya - if corporations or PACs are your primary source of campaign funds, are you really going to be likely to pass legislation they don't like?

]]> Geni http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062481 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062481 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:20:07 -0800 Comment by palamedes As of Noon Friday, Darcy's campaign is only $2,000 short of meeting the goal.

]]> palamedes http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062590 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062590 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 12:31:50 -0800 Comment by Mark H Erin - What total bullshit. More Democrats voted against the war than voted for it - based on the administrations lies and manipulations. Most - not all, but most - would choose differently today, based on what we know now.



There is massive grassroots opposition to the war - I'd challenge you to go find the Democratic organization in your legislative district and see how many Democrats there support it.



Why don't you wake the f*ck up? The ONLY way we are going to start ending this war (and stop the next one - Iraq? Syria?) is to get Democrats in control of one or both houses of Congress.


]]> Mark H http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062965 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c062965 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:17:30 -0800 Comment by Gomez I'm here to tell you, having just finished a campaign of my own, that it does NOT MATTER to most of the media or the powers that be what your message is. If you haven't raised a certain amount of money, you're a joke. Period.

Oh, so our country's government IS an Aristocracy. Okay, good to know. I was wondering.

]]> Gomez http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c063257 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c063257 Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:35:49 -0800 Comment by erin Hi Mark :)

Why don't you look at the voting records of our illustrious Democratic senators? Money for war, yes, the've voted for plenty. Corporate welfare for companies who are profiting off the dead in Iraq. Check.

So what if most would have voted differently. Why don't they do something about that today. Why didn't they vote to bring troops home now? They are obviously unwilling to do so, and so I refuse to support them. Those that do, are supporting the war. Period.

]]> erin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c063956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/03/put_burner_over#c063956 Sat, 01 Apr 2006 12:19:35 -0800