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Saturday, March 18, 2006

Poster Megalomaniacs Is More Like It

Posted by on March 18 at 14:46 PM

Poster Giant is still at it.

While walking up the Hill on East Pine forty minutes ago, I passed a guy tearing down a large number of carefully-selected flyers off of telephone poles. At the next pole ahead of him, I stopped and started reading the posters. When he caught up to me, he started tearing down certain flyers, right in front of me - while engaged in a cell phone conversation.

“Why are you doing that?” I queried.

“I work for Poster Giant,” he replied, still on the cell phone, still ripping down flyers.

“Oh,” I said. “I’m an independent promoter.” (I am, for the record - and I’ve always tried to have a sense of decorum about who/what I cover when putting up my own flyers.)

“Well, these are covering up our posters,” PG guy said. “These are our poles.

“Wait… you own these poles?”

“Yes.” He then returned to his phone conversation, ignoring me. “No, no, just some guy asking questions,” I heard him say to whomever was on the other end of the line. “No, I know… no more than three per pole.”

On my walk back from QFC ten minutes later, all the phone/utility poles on that side of Pine for several blocks were stripped bare of anything except the ubiquitous top-to-bottom, 100% coverage with events for big name clients on full-sized posters. Thanks Poster Megalomaniacs!

Alas, I don’t have a camera on my cell phone, or I’d have snapped the guy’s picture (he was wearing some amusing shoes, regardless of his poor poster etiquette). It was NOT the same gentleman pictured here a few days ago. But the offer still stands, Poster Giant - contact the paper and tell us why you’re targeting small promoters with these tactics: (206) 323 7101 and ask for Eli Sanders or Hannah Levin, or e-mail eli@thestranger.com or hlevin@thestranger.com .


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Why don't you contact the city and ask them if it's legal? Or do they have no jurisdiction, or want to, on this matter?

Smart street teams paper businesses rather than poles anyway. Most ignore pole advertising.

It's not illegal to tear down posters.
It's not very cool, though.

And if they can tear down other peoples' posters...

So which bands is this group promoting? Does this mean the smaller promoters should band together to tear down the Poster Giant's shit?

Does PG have special permission from the City?

As far as I know (based on some reporting we did on this a few weeks ago when Marcus of Pho Bang fame had his posters torn down), PG does not have any special deal with the city.

They do, however, rent out some private postering spaces on Pike, I believe, that appear to be public spaces. There's a little postering enclave of this sort by Honey Hole, I think.

Anyway, part of PG's rap on this is that they do a service by keeping the poles in postering condition because unless someone tears down older posters (which no one makes a point of doing), it eventually becomes impossible to poster at all. OF COURSE, this does not explain or justify or make it cool to tear down current posters.

Why do y'all keep failing to mention which bands/events are using poster giant? I'd like to tear down a few posters here and there, please (and think the rest of us should do the same) but I don't know which ones to target. Thanks.

Seriously Stranger staff:

GET SOME MOTHERFUCKING CAMERAS.

So many time I read on here that you didn't have a camera, or you managed to take a blurry picture with your camera phone.

Visuals would make slogging so much better....

And fuck PG.

Take Josh's main point: Poster Giant does not OWN the poles. That guy was simply trying to give you the proverbial "brush-off."
Those poles are City of Seattle Power and Utilities property. Anyone has a legal right to post on them, since the old law outlawing postings was rescinded (sometime in the mid-1990s). That is the reason people put flyers for lost companion animals or yard sales up there.
It is difficult to stop someone in such cases as you mentioned; but if you see the same guy again, perhaps ask a large friend to assist you in demanding he stop tearing other people's posters or flyers down. That is illegal and I believe a "citizen's arrest" would be appropriate, by whatever means necessary.

I saw this guy just after 2 pm today doing the same thing to a phone pole at Pine and Melrose and getting orders via cellphone at the same time. He was short and pasty with buck teeth and a receding hairline and some sort of plaid sport coat on... I thought he was pulling a prank 'cause he looked so freaky,

Why bother asking Poster Giant for an explanation? They're obviously doing it to make more money.

Everyone else that puts up posters should start tearing down the Poster Giant ones.

Sure, call the police. Surely they have nothing more serious to work on.

HINT- Higher, more often, and remember it is the streeet.

In the old days when it was not legal - the good order folks took them down faster than this outfit. Little old ladies who would get red faced at you and follow you down the blocks taking them down as fast as they went up.

Cruel world.

Fuck Mark Sidran - who the Stranger endorsed once (Ban on posting lifted by a court case, free speech issues and no case made that they were a public menace or hazard to pole using workers, after years, finally)

I'm with the people who ask what bands and venues PG's postering for. Let's find out who these sleazy assholes are promoting, and either take it to the venues/acts themselves, or, if they're cool with PG's actions, smear their names on the Forum/Slog/Stranger and tell the world so.

Tearing down posters may not be cool, but tearing down Poster Giant posters is just good citizenship.

These clowns are going to get their hands stapled to a pole one of these days....

wow, you seattle kids are idiots... fighting over a couple poles. last time i checked, this is a city. i walk by so many poles everyday that are not being utilized for show advertisement purposes (on capitol hill and off).

PG's job is to get their clients shit seen, that's why the poster ALL OVER the city.

Also, they only have so many posters, so it's not like they're covering every pole on every block no matter how critically "scene" that block may be.

You kids need to get smart or continue to have nobody at your shitty shows (aside, of course, from your girlfriends).

I'm going to have to agree with NYPUNK on this one. I doubt PG posts on every single pole in this city. I see poles every day that have nothing on them. Why not utilize them?

Also, according to the article, the guy said he was uncovering posters that were covering his. Nobody seems to want to make any mention of that. You guys cry when something happens to your posters, but you don't seem to care about others.

You are willing to cover their stuff without a problem, then you whine when they cover or tear down yours. GROW UP!

You people are all hypocrites! You want to cry when someone covers or tears your poster down but you think it is ok to cover or tear down other posters yourself.

Another great idea you people have: attack the clubs and promoters that you want to give you shows and venues you want to play at. That's a great idea!

With out successful venues and promoters there would be no scene for you whiners. All of the successful venues and promoters you speak of started with nothing and got where they are by hard work not complaining. If you put half the energy into working on your own projects and working together with the established individuals in the scene as you do bashing others projects you might be successful at your own.

Here's a thought... have any of you tried contacting any of the people you are complaining about to work something out or address your complaints directly? Or do you just bitch and expect the world to bend to your demands?

Good luck to all of you on your crusade against everything this country stands for and was built on. Capitalism means everyone has a chance that wants to work hard. If you don't like it move to a comunist country and everything will be equal accross the board. You will all have nothing.


I have no thought out philosophy about postering (for fucks sake, does everything have to be a fucking civics lesson?). Just the old golden rule everyone's already aware of should be good enough.

Being upset about your even't poster being covered isn't at all idiotic. That's a righteous gripe. You know what's idiotic? Getting your ass kicked over this shit.

I don't give a shit if it's wrong, unintelligent, disruptive to the scene or any of that over-thought bullshit. Act like an asshole who can't be bothered with common decency and you will get the shit slapped out of you everywhere on the planet but Capitol Hill apparently.

Okay- get over it! You live in Seattle- a place where everyone posts something, and when posting signs ,you understand that there's a good chance they wont last long. Afterall,it rains, people tear them off to go to events or remember information off of them. Everyone uses a pole to post something, and as much as it may suck, people can do whatever they want with the posters, if it's not the companies than it's the public who takes them down. Why don't you give those guys the credit who put the word out for the shows!!

For fucks-sake...get the hell over it already. Who the hell cares if a few posters get torn down and a few more put up. Frankly, I walk to school on Capitol Hill daily, and get freaking sick of the same shitty posters, weathered by both rain and sun, that haven't been replaced since the state of the union address. Sorry, bush didnt step down, and unfortunately, the poster didnt work. But you know what would work, putting up shit you care about, spreading the word, and having it seen. Who the hell cares who posts the shit. If we want equal opportunity, xerox more of your shitty ass posters, post them, and accept that the money you get from people seeing them is the money replacing your lost posters. POSTERS ARE MEANT TO BE TORN DOWN. thats why we dont buy billboard space, or fancy signs. We print them on economy class paper, use a measly staple to adhere them, and hope they stay up long enough to serve their purpose. Quit your whining and accept that part of the whole game is getting your shit seen.

It's kinda funny to me that The Stranger wants to print these articles about posterGIANT when they use our services often and like any other paying client complain when they don't see there posters up. So for all of you who want to know who the big bad offending clients are you can turn to your dear friend The Stranger for some answers. Interesting huh?

Also amusing to me that they act like they don't know how to get in touch with us for a comment but can call us to do a job when they want it done right.

Also curious to me is how they fail to mention the numerous pro bono (free for the non educated that seem to be spending their time here) shows that posterGIANT has distributed for them in order to raise money for various benifits.

*DING DING DING* ...and the winner by knock out is the president of PG!!

So I said all this last time...but I guess I have to say it again. Posters get covered or torn down by a ton of other individuals and street teams besides PG. Thats the game out there. And just because you see someone out there hangin flyers doesnt mean they work for PG.
If you are not willing to go post your flyers 3 days a week (minimum) your shit will be gone in a day, whether PG covers it or not. And usually PG is hangin posters for shows that other people have made their own posters for. ITS THE SAME SHOW...just different graphics!
PG is run by great people...workin for them paid my rent and kept me from havin to go get some crappy job waitressing or makin fast food.
You all would have a hard time boycotting shows and venues PG hangs for unless you never want to go to another show again...cuz its nearly every big venue in town and quite a few of the small ones as well...and The Stranger! What do ya have to say to that Eli ??

And fuck all you stuck up judgemental assholes who feel the need to point out crooked teeth/plaid coats/ hairlines etc... What does any of that have to do with the subject? Who the fuck are you to judge??? You are the most perfect person in the world? Im sure the world revolves around what you wear and what you look like...Right? You should be so ashamed of yourself for bein such a shallow piece of shit! GROW UP!

Shut up already! Christ!

Typical Stranger staff, failing to step up to the plate when they're called on their shit by those they criticize.

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