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Saturday, March 18, 2006

400 Detentions Issued at Seattle Prep in One Day?!?

Posted by on March 18 at 16:00 PM

After the morning prayer at Seattle Prep on Friday, the school’s popular Dean of Students Jim Flies (pronounced fleece) came on the public address system and warned students not to ditch class.

The administration had gotten word the students were planning a walk out—organized, in part, via a flurry of text messages—to protest the school’s rumored decision earlier that week to demote Flies. (The rumor is that Flies was offered a job as the IS guy.) The students had circulated a petition earlier in the week, signed by about 400 of the 600 plus students at Prep, voicing support for Flies as dean.

To the students, the rumored decision about Mr. Flies was symbolic of a trend at Prep this year under the school’s brand new principal, Father Tyrrell, to de-prioritize student voices and concerns—and to get tougher about issuing detentions (or JUGs, Judgment Under God). (One student says the hostile trend began right away at the beginning of the school year when the administration tried to institute silly stuff like a new dress code barring students from wearing clothing that revealed the collarbone.)

Flies is popular among students for being fair and open minded. Students believe the administration wants to replace him with someone who is more of a cut and dry disciplinarian. Earlier in the week, when Prep’s board of trustees was reportedly meeting during the school day to discuss Flies’s status, 400 students donned neon orange or green index cards—stringing the cards around their necks—emblazoned with Mr. Flies’s name and either a quote from Seattle Prep’s mission statement (quotes about creating a community of dignity and respect) or one of the Jesuit proverbs from the school handbook. The students believed the Jesuit sayings reflected Mr. Flies’s nature—and thus, reflected the hypocrisy of the administration’s reported decision to remove him as dean of students.

“We ran out [of the cards]. Everyone wanted one,” one of the two seniors who stayed up the night before making the impromptu neon protest gear reports.

At 8 O’clock, shortly after Mr. Flies’s plea that students stay in class, another voice came over the intercom. A couple of students had surreptitiously commandeered the public address system. “The Walk Out is Still On at 8:30!”

Then at 8:30, the student voices came on the P.A. once again: “The time is now. Stand up for what you believe in. Don’t let your voice be silenced.”

About 400 students walked out of class and congregated in the central plaza of the campus where students, anyone who wanted to, gave speeches using a megaphone. Several speakers demanded that Father Tyrrell come out and talk to the crowd. (Flies was there at the start of the rally and asked everyone to return to class. Although, one student reports he wasn’t too forceful about it.)

When Father Tyrrell came out and told the students to go back inside he was met with a resounding “no” from the group. He was, according to the students, forced to meet with a group of about five juniors who were identified as the leaders of the walk out. Against Father Tyrrell’s wishes, the crowd of students remained in the plaza while he met with the leaders. The students said they would decide to return to class or not—once they heard a report from the student leaders on how the meeting had gone.

About two hours later, after Father Tyrrell’s meeting with the student leaders concluded, the juniors reported that Father Tyrrell had committed to further dialogue about honoring and respecting student concerns.

The students returned to class.

In reference to the negative reaction she encountered from some Prep teachers, one senior who helped organize the protests said: “It’s really hypocritical. For the past four years I’ve been told to stand up for what I believe in. And the minute I do, there’s this backlash.”

“There was a JUG list for about 400 kids,” another student reports. The detention list was about 15 pages long.

Father Tyrrell announced later, however, that the students who took part in the walk out did not have detention.

*There’ll be a more detailed report on the Prep walk out in next week’s paper. I have calls out to the administration and hope to talk to them on Monday.


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thank you for covering an event like this. young people usually only get in the media for crashing a car after binge drinking, not standing up and making educated and well thought out decisions to protest. Music for America hearts the Stranger!

Maybe the student paper will let Josh write -

News value is minus 10.

Still don't know if there was an issue except they like one teacher better than another. Heavy duty protest.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ very blah.

Did anyone have an anti-war sign? Fight hunger sign? Better schools for the poor sign? Birth control on demand signs? Money for AIDS sign?

Oh well, the 1970's are surely gone.

ZZ:
One of the things about young people is that if you activate us on anything, you are doing a good thing. The whole point of being young is that we can buck the traditions of society and invent our own reasons for standing up for ourselves.

Obviously, it's been a long time since you were in high school, but getting 400 teenagers to do ANYTHING is very difficult. If you add school to the equasion, it becomes infinitely more difficult.

Even though these people aren't protesting the war, I bet that if you asked them about their opinions, you would get a well-thought out answer. Unfortunately, in order to make a difference about anything, you can't be scattered all over the place. If any of these people were holding anti-war signs, I would be confused.

If you like the '70s so much, get out of my millenium, please.

Ari- It won't be your millenia unless you claim it.

No, in fact it has been less than a decade since the end of HS.

At my school we had some real issues that were debated all he time. Of course, it was not a rich kid private school.

You are snotty - and smug. You need to claim that power, use it in big scope, with issues of meaning to real lives.

It will not be your time in history by making something out of nothing.

How would you be confused by a honest conversation as to why we are killing people in Iraq?

You are at a Catholic school - the Pope is anti-war. Get your highschool in the lead on the issue. Organize a world Peace day with ten people - much bigger news - real news.

Next time there is a death penalty case up - do a demo aginst it. The Pope is also on your side, but there needs to be much education on the issue. I became very opposed to the death penalty when I was 15 due to intense debate at church and among family - and at school.

I don't think it ruined me to face hard issue like life and death.- in high school.

What are you waiting for? - claim your power. The big world needs that. It might be good to get away from the safe and secure and empty word of mommie and daddy too. A sweet as they might be - dig out the wings and fly.

The 70's are a giant metaphor for sweeping change - much of fueled by two young generations. Some amazing energy for changes on a dozen isssues from the status of women, gay rihts, racism, anti-war, enviro issues - the list is long.

Read some history - fly, f;y, fly.

So speaking of flying, if it's not applicable to EVERYONE, then it's not worthwhile, or what? Are you honestly saying that unless they spend their time being active only on HUGE (or bigger than this) issues, that they're wasting it, and that Dan has wasted your time with the article (which he hardly has. Why does no one go and attack celebrity news? I'd rather read about this than Brad Pitt MAYBE getting married).

Certainly, it's small. But I hope to god you're not implying that they should ignore something that bothers them simply because it only affects them, or isn't big.

er, Josh, not Dan. Sorry!

zz-remember when you were a teenager, what it was like to be lectured by a self righteous blowhard?

You know what's freaky? This story is almost identical to something that happens in a very random (but kind of good) book called Brendan, by Mary Wallace. Complete with private Catholic school, JUG slips, popular teacher's demotion, much stricter principal Father ____, and walk-out protest which lands a bunch of students in detention. Weird.

Next week: Josh finds out who clogged the toilet in the boy's bathroom.


Stay on this story, Josh.

It might get you that job at the P-I.

I don't attend Seattle Prep, I have graduated high school, but I work with young people (and most people would consider me a young person).

I think this is a great story to be covering- just as great as Amy Jenniges' report about the high school paper on the eastside that was being censored, and way more relevant to current issues than any school shooting. If you don't think this is a good story to report on, you have no value for the opinions of young people.

Would you rather us be portrayed in the media as we usually are- dumb, engaging in risky behaviors, and with no purpose in life?

I do claim this millenium as mine. And if you don't think that young people are stepping up and taking responsibility for the world, just look at the voting statistics in the 2004 election (the first year in which I could vote). If it weren't for old people, Kerry would have won with 81%. Young people are the largest group making the right decision.

Bing -

Maybe I was crippled by very intelligent, warm and caring adults, no upscale cacoon and emancipation at 15 - within my family and as an agreeded stategy.

If teens think all adults are blowhards - that might be the first obstacle to gowing up and getting down to life.

Sorry you assume your teen years are a model ..... and how long did it take to figure out what YOU thought and that thinking was OK, blowhards young and old sorted out?

In my memory, most of the air heads were other kids. Conformity of any sort was never important to me. The high school clique was a bore.

i'm not saying all adults are blowhards, i'm saying that YOUR response to Ari was that of a self-righteous, totally condescending blowhard.

let the kids have their walk-out. they don't have to tie it to some global macro-agenda for it to be a valid expression. maybe if they see they can affect change in this small way, they will be encouraged to try to affect change in other contexts.

having some wanker lecture them over the insignificance of their cause will just discourage em.

BING DONG-

Rather be a bit of a blow hard, than a blow nothing.

As Ari identified herself, she is in her early twenties and still thinks she is in her teens.

And you want to give them pablum instead of substance.

Oh, I get it. Organic maturation. Something happens to an elite group in an elite prep school to tell them the world is a big place, big problems, just waiting for their talent.

And, in the activism I am taking about- youth is not a barrier.

You and Josh should be dating - he thinks it is news and you think people heading for their twenties are not adults.

DING, DING.

"Judgement Under God"?!?! Those self-righteous fuckers!

I attend Seattle Prep and the walkout was not to protest the demotion of Flies. That was simply one of the issues at hand. Students, including myself, feel like our voice has been silenced ever since Father Tyrrell has taken office. Also, a JUG list for 400 kids was never printed. Father Tyrrell made his decision to not penalize students long before the daily JUG list was even printed. If you have any questions feel free to e-mail me at tsmithauctions@gmail.com.

I would just like to add to what Juston said...I too attend Seattle Prep and "ZZ" if you honestly believe that none of the 400+ kids who walked out of their classrooms on Friday morning had any legitimate reason to, you're dead wrong. Who are you to judge our reasons for organizing or participating in such an event anyway? We might not have been protesting for world peace or an end to hunger but we were still exercising our rights as people to speak our minds and peacefully assemble. I also happen to think it's quite ironic that you called Prep a "rich kid private school" I mean, if you're so ignorant as to label our entire school as that, how can you claim we are ignorant and have no cause for protest? We were simply protesting what we didn't believe in and standing up for what we did. Isn't that what peaceful assembly is all about? Who are you to say that we don't debate and/or discuss "real issues" either? You obviously have no idea what kind of educational experience we receive at Seattle Prep, and clearly have no understanding of what issues are important to us. I suggest that you keep your cynical and ignorant comments to yourself ZZ. Don't pass judgement until you educate yourself on the youth of America, or at least the youth of Seattle Preparatory School.

I am an alum of Seattle Prep. Please avoid creating stories regarding Mr. Flies' heroic, beloved nature unless you have witnessed his true persona. I found him to be quite fake and superficial. He does not know how to properly enforce discipline at Seattle Prep, and lets certain individuals get away with anything if he favors them. Over the past few years, I have heard of many issues (requiring disciplinary action by the Dean of Students, Mr. Flies) that have been "brushed under the rug" in order to keep Seattle Prep in a favorable public eye. Or perhaps he fears his popularity would diminish. Or, most likely, he just picks and chooses his "favorites." I am merely suggesting that there is another side to this man. Seattle Prep was a much better school under the previous Dean of Students, and hopefully the school will make a change for the better when Mr. Flies is moved to a lesser position. Granted, I am a proponent of free speech and allowing students a voice (as I am a fairly liberal college student); however I suggest students at Prep save their support for a more worthy candidate.

I have witnessed Flies's true persona and he actually lives the mission of our school. You're talking trash about him but not citing examples, and some of your complaints are flat out ignorant. If you're not still at Prep (and not a Prep teacher faking) then what do you know about it anyway? What hs student wnats more discipline on him or his friends? None. This situation is so messed up and no one tells us anything. Like why do we have 2 deans of students and yet everyone only talks bad about 1? I heard none of them has a degree in school administration but at least Flies actually likes students and respects us as people. Plus I think he's the only one who cares about the students who aren't all popular. Not everything is just for those of you who are TUllis pets.

No, I am not a Seattle Prep teacher. However, my younger sibling attends this academic institution and I correspond with a few teachers. I hear much regarding lack of correct disciplinary action. It is, though, none of my business to share this in such a public forum. Why engage in shooting hearsay back and forth? I am sure you can think of significant examples over the past few years when chastisement was minimal.
You are not an adult. The faculty at Seattle Prep is comprised of adults. The principal task of the Dean of Students is to dispense appropriate reprimand when necessary. In the job requirement for a dean is to “serve as disciplinarian when social or academic problems arise.” I have the opinion that these duties have been shirked. Obviously, camaraderie between faculty and students should necessarily occur and be encouraged. If a school’s faculty merely taught and doled out JUGS, and failed to take time to build positive relationships with students, that school’s lack of spirit and companionship would turn any prospective or current student away.
I understand your frustration at “not being told anything.” Open communication between students and faculty is just as necessary as and should build upon the camaraderie I discussed above. I hope your “demonstration” last Friday facilitated some needed conversation. However, once again, you are not a mature adult. I am not trying to demean you, but students should not be privy to administrative information. There are topics that cannot ethically be shared with students. Even at my university many decisions are determined by the “Board of Trustees,” mostly comprised of a group of elderly alums that no longer have any true connection to the university.
As for your last comment, that “not everything is just for those of you who are Tullis pets.” Yes, Ms. Tullis is a teacher whom I especially admire and respect. As a student, she taught me both my sophomore and junior years at Seattle Prep; her teaching is dynamic. However, why characterize me as “a popular student” and a “Tullis pet”? I was neither. It sounds to me as if you either harbor some jealously for students who have friendship with her, or perhaps you cannot handle her fair yet strict discipline. It is sad to me that you feel the teachers do not care for those students who are not popular. I feel that another primary task of teachers is to watch out for and care for those “unpopular” students. And I believe the teachers I know and respect do just that.

I object to the idea that people can only protest/fight for BIG IMPORTANT THINGS and that local issues or issues that directly affect a person's daily life are "dilettante" issues and aren't worth fighting for. These students were protesting something that's important to them and that matters. Should they be up in arms about Iraq? Sure and they probably are. However, this is an issue that is affecting their community and so they are the perfect people to take a stand on it.

Is it "work on fighting the Iraq War or nothing!"? No other activism on any other issue is legitimate? That doesn't seem productive.

this issue is bullshit. everyone knows that j. flies is a total fuck up. yes, he is a decent guy - no doubt. but let's face it, he cant control shit. terrell is shaking up things and no one likes it. it's only going to get worse before it gets better so hold on to your protest signs.....

Flies is the only administrator with an M.Ed and principal credential. Furthermore he is the only administrator who is perceived as sympathetic and approachable to minority populations at Prep (those who are Black, or less fortunate, or have ADD, or no family connections, etc.) If Prep removes him they send a loud message about who they don't value. By trying to remove him they show how much they value the idea of community.

To AL_R: If you had any sort of clue about Prep you'd know that the principal's name is spelled "Tyrrell".

all i know, is spencer hawes is the last white hope

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