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Wednesday, February 22, 2006

Love parks? Hate Nickels? Discuss…

Posted by on February 22 at 12:31 PM

Activists connected to eight disparate Seattle neighborhood issues are staging a rally at 8:30 Saturday morning at the south entrance of the Woodland Park Zoo. Each will speak for a few minutes about the one thing they all have in common: contempt for Mayor Greg Nickels’ Parks and Recreation department.

Their complaints fall into three categories:

1) The parks department pulls a “switcheroo”; i.e. saying it will do one thing only to do another. At the zoo, for instance, neighbors say they were led to believe they’d convinced parks officers it wasn’t worth devoting park space to a four-story, above-ground parking garage, when a smaller, below-ground garage would suffice. Instead, the big, above-garage will be built. (The rally coincides with the zoo’s parking garage design workshop.) Other alleged switcheroos: daylighting of Ravenna Creek and the skatepark at Lower Woodland Park.

2) The parks department takes public comment, only to act against those public comments. This applies to the Summer Nights concert series’ re-location to Gas Works Park, as well as the decision to install lighting over the ball fields at Magnuson Park. “They make a decision about what to do and then they tell people and then they have public hearings,” says Diane Duthweiler, one of the rally organizers. “But it doesn’t matter how many people are against it. It’s too late to stop it.” It’s her suspicion that the parks department is engaging in “backroom deals.”

3) The parks department exercises bad judgment. See Occidental Park, where trees are being removed despite neighbors’ protests; or the building of condos near Discovery Park; or the installation of synthetic grass in the Loyal Heights Playfield.

But batting leadoff in this lineup is Al Runte, the mayoral candidate responsible for last year’s local spike in the usage of the term “quixotic.” He will be accusing the city of exploiting public parks for private interests, or something like that.

If all goes according to plan, the rally will end with a march along Phinney Avenue to the zoo’s west entrance.


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I saw a flier outside my apartment advertising this rally, and I had two quick comments.

1. Who in their right minds feel like protesting at 8:30 on a Saturday morning? And as neighbor, wouldn't I be kinda pissed to see hippie "marchers" outside my door that early. Wouldn't that be, oh, counterproductive to the cause?

2. What kind of a pussy march lasts a whole 0.3 miles? http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=N+50th+St+%26+Aurora+Ave+N,+Seattle,+WA+98103+%4047.665070,-122.347330&daddr=N+57th+St+%26+Phinney+Ave+N,+Seattle,+WA+98103&f=d&hl=en&dq=north+50th+and+aurora+ave+n+seattle&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=67.548891,110.917969

Well, once they are no longer proximal to their backyards, their problems--their beings--cease to exist....

This Citizens Against Everything shit is getting old. They would protest sun in December is Nichols liked it. Can't they all just get laid and move on with their lives?

Poor event timing (they're probably trying to make the Sunday local section), but a damn good cause. How anyone here can defend the indefensible actions of the Parks Department is beyond me.

Do you think privatizing a good chunk of Gas Works Park - a very well used park - for at least 3 summers is a good idea? Or building a multistory Zoo parking garage on a meadow? Or tearing down over a dozen mature trees in Occidental Park?

Go NIMBY's Go!!!

mr. x, you are a true drama queen.

Hosting a concert is not "privatizing a park." It is called, FUN, which I know you NIMBY freaks dont understand. See earlier post about sexual frustration.

The parking structure is so EVERYONE can enjoy the zoo, not just the rich white people who live near it.

Finally, if you went to Occidental every day like I do, you would cut down ALL the trees to open up that park for activity other than drug dealing and pandhandling. Nichols is being soft on this one.

I think you would be happier in Des Moines where everyone sits indoors and eats in front of the TV.


Um, if you fence off a good portion of a public park for a private production company to put on concerts, you've privatized it (please note the restrictions too on waterborne navigation by GSW so none of those pesky boaters can tune in to the concerts as they do now).

If you build a 4-story garage at the Zoo, which has been operated successfully for decades without one, and which is designed to support major concert events rather than the Zoos core audience, who are you benefiting (hint - it's not the families that already can barely afford the ever increasing cost of zoo admission).

I walk through Occidental Park plenty (I worked for over 7 years in the Square), and cutting the trees will not solve ANY of the problems you cite (and, by the way, what the hell does that have to do with visibility at night, when most folks would find the place most threatening - which, by the way, I don't).

Go fuck yourself, pal.

Cordially,

A proud NIMBY who gives two shits about quality of life in Seattle.

BTW, dude, can you even spell our (corporate shill of a) Mayor's name?

A) I am glad you enjoy reading Jane Eyre in the park, most people actually would enjoy keeping these public events in the city and not shipped to Bellevue.

B)I am glad you have such intimate
knowledge of the city's and zoo's budget to discern their current financial situation. If you did, you wouldn't write such ignorant crap. Frankly, Schell, who you nimby's loved, signed the deal on the garage moron.

C) Your urban studies PhD must come to good use as well in your idea that a dark canopy over an open, urban space does not contribute to illicit behaviour.

THANK GOD people like you live in Seattle. Soon we can ban all progress and go back to dirt roads and carriages. Again, PLEASE, move to Des Moines where there is not energy for things like live music in the open air. I will buy your ticket.

A) So you're OK with fencing off a good portion of a popular public park during the height of summer so a private company can use it to charge admission for concerts. I'm not.

B) What the hell do you know about the City or Zoo budget? The case has yet to be made that this garage is needed for the zoo to succeed - and Paul Schell didn't approve the above ground garage in any event - this was a change made subsequent to the public involvement process, which is one of the main reasons citizens who have followed this process (like Irene Wall, an expert on City and Zoo finances if ever there was one) think it stinks to high heaven. Bottom line - Zoo management want to bring in more events not related to the zoo, and want the parking for things like concerts, weddings, and conferences.

C) This notion is pure bullshit - I walk in the park all of the time, and the sightlines across and through it are just fine. I guess you just don't like that all those stinky homeless people sleep on the benches and wash in the Pergola's water feature. Tough titty.

Given that the Union Gospel Mission and several other homeless shelters are within 2 blocks of Occidental Park, I'll bet you a nickel that these changes will not make one iota of difference to public perceptions of safety in the long term.

Oh, and I'm sorry to disappoint you - but I ain't going anywhere, asshole (one thing I will say for suburban cities, though - being elected by district in a smaller jurisdiction means that their electeds have to at least pretend to listen to what their residents think).

Seattle deserves better than the kind of dishonest top-down corporate governance that is the hallmark of the Nickels Administration.

BTW - you're kind of a dick.

Um. Geez. Guess i hit a sore spot. OK, you win.

To HoratioS...glad you care enough to comment!
1. Event is timed to precede a 9 am WPZ garage planning meeting, which is good strategy. Some will stay and participate.

2. It's not about how much or how long - this is more of a moving rally, not a walk to see who will collapse first.

Roll out of bed and check it out!

I need to correct a fact error in the original comment by Mr. Francis. The issue at Discovery Park is not "condos near the park". Those are all being built on private land according to the zoning code.



The issue is the Officers' Row and Montana Circle military housing which the City has agreed to allow American Eagle (a closely held Texas corporation that is reported to be tight with the Republican Party) sell these housing units to the highest bidder. Because of zoning laws they will have to use condominium law to divide up the duplexes - that is where the "condos in the park" phrase comes from.



Friends of Discovery Park believes the property should be in public hands. Up to 26 private inholdings in Discovery Park may be nice for the fortunate purchasers but it will be a management nightmare for the park.

Is there any truth to the rumor that the parks department actually sent out an e-mail to project supporters asking them to show up and counter protest?

Too weird.

Though if someone brings a big sign that says "zoo garage now!" it'll totally be worth it.

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