On the Slog, it is customary not only to take bold positions but to make grand, sweeping statements loaded with absolutes and then put them in boldface. I think you've almost got it, Dave.

Dear Dave,

Please get on the interoffice iTunes network so we can listen to your music.

Thanks!

Sorry, I don't fuck with iTunes.
If you give me collateral, I will loan you some items.
Luddite-tastically yours…

"On the Slog, it is customary not only to take bold positions but to make grand, sweeping statements loaded with absolutes and then put them in boldface. I think you've almost got it, Dave."

And steal Mudede's thunder? Oooohhhh no.

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But I play it on iTunes, because I'm a Mac daddy.

can we draw a straight line connecting the two or are you assuming that simply because something of a similar sound existed it must be the direct influence?

like math .. just because the Mayans had zero prior to the europeans, does that mean the Euros got their zeros from them?

i know this is a blog, but please provide some more detail when your going to stake such a claim as you have just made.

"can we draw a straight line connecting the two or are you assuming that simply because something of a similar sound existed it must be the direct influence?"

I said "however infinitesimally." It's very possible some German techno producers heard "Nobody But Me" and discovered a kernel of an approach worth exploring.
More likely, it's just a coincidental similarity, but that in itself is interesting... to some nerds anyway.

so your "bold claim" is then infinitesimal?

Also minimal techno has its roots in the band Suicide, which heartily borrowed from a lot of Nuggets-era garage rock (in fact they started right around the time Nuggets was first issued, no?). Its very likely one of those guys heard the track when crafting their rather creepy trance punk steez.

"so your "bold claim" is then infinitesimal?"

Yes. See how masterfully I vield zee paradox?

Good points, Scott G.
The organ/bass/drums bridge in ? & the Mysterians' "96 Tears" also has struck me as oddly proto-techno-like, and I know Suicide were into that song.

well, you know, minimal techno is really nothing more than just the extension of the tape loops indicitive of steve reich's early work.

and further more every minimal techno producer knows who steve reich is.

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"well, you know, minimal techno is really nothing more than just the extension of the tape loops indicitive of steve reich's early work."

That's rather reductive. Reich is undoubtedly crucial to minimal techno, but to say it's "nothing more than the extenstion" of his innovations stretches credulity.

"and further more every minimal techno producer knows who steve reich is."

You polled EVERY one of them? I salute you.
I'm going to see a few tonight. I'll ask around to see if your claim is true.

you're drunk, right?

sarcasm doesn't translate well on comments? or maybe your post right there ^ is the UBEr of all straight faced sarcasm?

btw. for anyone else responding to my posts. let it be known, that anything I write that ends with a "..." is snarky sarcasm. (i've pointed this out before but the memo is not getting passed around).

read it in the voice of a pretensious 8 year old "child genius".

kraftwerk has stated before that they were just trying to emulate american soul music. we all know where kraftwerk stands in the history of techno.

so it is not as far fetched as some of you may think.

"btw. for anyone else responding to my posts. let it be known, that anything I write that ends with a "..." is snarky sarcasm. (i've pointed this out before but the memo is not getting passed around)."

Terribly sorry. I've been negligent in reading all of your Slog posts and picking up on your cryptic symbol for snarky sarcasm (btw, isn't "snarky" slang for snide sarcasm?). I'll try harder.

blergh.

concerning lines, however, yes we know the influences of kraftwerk and that people like Richie Hawtin were definately influenced by them, however I don't think that soul is much the inspiration for say Hawtin's Plastikman releases. I'd stake a claim that minimal techno is much more a deviation and expirementation away from the classical techno producers.

Anyone ever hear DJ Hell's brilliant use of the Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose's "Treat Her Like a Lady" in one of his tracks [I don't know the title, I've only heard it in a Kris Moon DJ set]? Or how about Thomas Brinkmann's Soul Center project, whose incredible tracks revolve around funk and soul samples from the 60s and 70s? More such unlikely connections/influences exist for those willing to dig.