Slog - Comments on Everything That's Wrong w/ This Country...And Always Has Been http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1 From Drudge: FLASHBACK: Man Wearing Anti-Clinton T-Shirt Removed from Senate Gallery at Impeachment Trial Cindy Sheehan, the anti-war activist who was removed from the House gallery last night before the State of the Union address for wearing a t-shirt with a political message, is not the first person to be tossed from a Congressional gallery at a high-profile event for wearing a political t-shirt. In the early days of the Senate's impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton in January 1999, a Pennsylvania man named Dave Delp was removed by the Capitol police from the Senate gallery for wearing a t-shirt... Copyright 2007 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:27:28 -0800 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 02:49:53 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by alithea "after being given one of the photos as a souvenir..." lol. our tax dollars hard at work, folks.

]]> alithea http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013402 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013402 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:30:45 -0800 Comment by Kevin He was removed. He was not arrested.

The goal here was to remove a disruptive presemce at an official event, not silence opposition.

]]> Kevin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013405 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013405 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:49:44 -0800 Comment by lester Also (and hey, Cindy knew she wouldn't be able to wear that shirt and I wouldn't expect that anyone could wear a protest shirt at an event like that, no matter who was standing at the podium), it's telling that the 1999 tshirt crasher was wearing a dumb bumper sticker slogan that "slammed" Clinton with absolutely no real indictment of his character or actions, but Cindy was just wearing a shirt stating a deplorable matter of fact which didn't mention Bush at all. Given the facts it's hard to believe that Bush has any approval rating at all.

]]> lester http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013408 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013408 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:58:18 -0800 Comment by Josh Feit ARRESTING Sheehan is definitely scary and weird—and I'm psyched that she's taking legal action. But simply removing someone for wearing a "Clinton Sucks" t-shirt is also dumb and wrong.

And you're getting into a little dicey Animal Farm speak by parsing "remove a disruptive presence" as "opposed" to "silence opposition." You're giving Clinton access to a slippery slope there, Kevin.

]]> Josh Feit http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013409 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013409 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:03:49 -0800 Comment by Kevin When you go to someone else's house, you should expect to follow their rules.

If you don't follow the rules, you can be asked to leave. I have no issue with that. The issue I have is the arrest.

Silencing opposition is being done with intimidation using the legal system. This is the scary part.

]]> Kevin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013411 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013411 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:22:34 -0800 Comment by Kevin I just read this on AOL.com

"Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla., was removed from the gallery because she was wearing a T-shirt that read, "Support the Troops - Defending Our Freedom."

She was not arrested. She was removed. Apparently the CONTENT of the shirt means the difference between removal and arrest. Now it all makes sense!!!!

]]> Kevin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013413 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013413 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:28:03 -0800 Comment by Josh Feit "Someone else's House," Kevin?

The guy was in the Senate gallery in the U.S. Capitol building. That is not someone else's house. Your tax dollars etc....

If he'd actually been disruptive, yeah, remove him, but the guy was wearing a t-shirt.

]]> Josh Feit http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013414 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013414 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:30:54 -0800 Comment by maybe I’m a little disturbed by the rule, but I’m not sure they screwed up. I think that the difference between being removed and being arrested has to do with how willingly the folks participated. Much as I love what she does, it seems like Cindy refused to follow the initial order/request.

]]> maybe http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013415 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013415 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:34:00 -0800 Comment by Kevin Maybe,
I've read a few accounts of both incidents. I haven't read anything about Cindy Sheehan resisting. She was descrived as being cooperative.

Beverly Young, on the other hand is descibed as resisting and quoted as calling the officer a "moron".

The only difference between arrest and removal seems to be the message of the t-shirt, not the behavior of the wearer.

]]> Kevin http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013420 http://slog.thestranger.com/2006/02/everything_that_1#c013420 Wed, 01 Feb 2006 11:59:50 -0800 Comment by shelly Hey man...sorry I missed the party.

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