That's a real bummer. I'm no fan either but I'd be pretty pissed off and ready to make sweeping, nasty statements about an entire city if I were him too.

Biggest bummer: those who paid because they love him. First, their show is ruined by assholes, then the guy they paid to see shits on their city. Lame.

Oh, Katie's Song did make me cry once.

I'm a big fan of Kozelek's, and that would drive me crazy. I like a lot of mopey music, and I still go see it, although there are times when I wonder why. I've had similar experiences with bad crowds at shows by people like Richard Buckner, but he didn't yell at anybody. He would have been justified, but he didn't.

Of course, there was the time I saw Whiskeytown in Dallas and Ryan Adams riled everyone up, calling the reasonably polite crowd a bunch of frat assholes, and then he eventually started tossing beer bottles up into the balcony. But now I'm off topic.

First of all, it was mis-advertised and cost $17, not $15. As a huge fan, I gladly paid. I sadly left half way through his set because it was putting me to sleep. So thanks for the update on what I missed.

Two observations: when I saw Iron & Wine at the same venue (Neumo's), I was also sleepy, but in awe at the crowd's silence and respect. It was actually a little scary how quiet everyone was. Make that: it was a little creepy, appropriate, and appreciated by all.

Now go to Louisville, KY to the I&W show after Calexico opened and got the bourbon infused fans all rowdy before Sam's lulling set. I'm sure that wasn't the first show on his tour that Sam didn't get the silence and respect that he expects. What can you do, really?

I guess one option is to be more like Ryan Adams and insult every city you go to and get too drunk to sing your songs or not even show up to all of your scheduled shows. Did we ever find out why he cancelled his show at the Moore this past summer?

Option two: take it to the Triple Door. I agree.

easy to say "take it to the Triple Door" when ya get in for free, jennifer. ;-)

any show there is going to cost quite a bit more as their overhead's rather high, no? moreover, indie heads don't plank down the cash needed to feel comfortable there (generally speaking). unless of course it's a special night with kexp boosters or what have you. etc. etc.

if it made economic sense for the artists/etc. i'm sure it would be happening more. but i doubt the performers can make more money at the triple door. capacity is under 300. and money's the bottom line, esp. with agencies booking the tours. they gotta get their cuts too.

if you're famous as fuck and KNOW you're gonna pack the triple door, even at a slightly higher cover charge, well, that's a different story. but for "middle of the road" acts that can get booked at any other seattle club? a triple door is perhaps not a risk worth taking... (for all involved)

money ruins everything (i agree it's definitely the place for a quiet show, no doubt about that!!!), captain bling

hey captain bling...you're right, i don't think in terms of money, i think in terms of the audience experience, so your perspective is interesting...i didn't think about the variations in capacity. but there have been some performers who have done well there...sufjan stevens did two sold out nights. i know not everyone is on his level and i'm not suggesting the triple door alter its formula completely, just noting that for mellower shows that space would be pretty amazing to utilize...

I actually went to the Mark Kozelek show. I was right down in front and saw everything that went on between Kozelek and the audience. Let me preface this by saying that I am a big fan of his music. Kozelek was a pissed-off asshole from the moment he got on stage. He was such an egomaniac that he didn't even introduce Phil Carney from the Red House Painters. I've been to some shows where I definitely felt sorry for the performer because the audience was so damn obnoxious. This was not the case at the Kozelek show. In fact the audience only got mildly belligerent when Kozelek started insulting everyone and the city of Seattle. He acted like he’d been drug here kicking and screaming and forced to play at gunpoint rather than to a packed house of fans that paid at least $15 to see him. He needs to fucking get over himself or he is going to sabotage his career. I know that I am having a difficult time listening to his music now and that really bums me out.

I was also outraged with Kozelek's attitude at the Neumos show. His comments about a few apparently obnoxious fans were petty, and his insults to the city of Seattle were completely fucked. If he requires utter silence in order to play his songs, he should have performed them in a goddamn church. He obviously thinks his fans should worship him instead of merely paying to listen to him play. Too bad. I didn't know he was such a rock star.

I was there too, and equally dissapointed. First, the evening was billed as Mark Kozelek and friends but apparently he doesn't have too many (no wonder if he's going to be such a grump). The woman opening for him was interesting, but her 40ish minutes of music wasn't exactly uplifting. Then we, the crowd standing on a concrete floor, were subjected to another 30-40 minutes of take down/setup (of a drum set and 2 mikes-what the hell took so long?) all the while accompanied by depressing dirge music. When Mark finally came out, his attitude was questionable from the get-go. He clearly wasn't happy with the sound quality in the place. I left after about 5 songs, but the yeller in the beginning, who prompted the "middle of the road" comment, was only throwing out a gutteral sort of enthusiastic "yeah!" from time to time. The drunk girl in front didn't help, but it just seemed Mark didn't want to be there. And frankly, after working all day and standing on concrete for an hour and a half waiting for Mark's sleep-inducing music (which I love, by the way, under other circumstances) that didn't start until after 11:00, I didn't want to be there either.

I agree that the 3Door is a better venue for Mark's music. I've seen shows there that I only paid $15 bucks for--I loved AJ Croce there. Granted, the drinks are more expensive, but I think the venue and crowd would have been a little more to Mark's liking, even if the latter were a little smaller. and I as an audience member would have been much more comfortable. And if he's going to do sleepy, haunting songs like that, he'd better start his show a little earlier.

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